308 AR

dsdmmat · Apr 17, 2017

Pick a brand and stick with it for your upper and lower, pick a pattern and stick with it for your lower, upper, handguard, barrel and BCG and you won't have any issues. I have built several different brands but stuck with the DPMS pattern for all of them. The DPMS pattern has the most aftermarket suppliers for Barrels, BCGs and handguards.

Juggernaught tactical
Lewis Tool and Machine
DPMS
Aero
Go Ballistic
Are all good brands and they fit DPMS uppers ( Aero and JT make their own uppers as well)

1075tech · Apr 17, 2017

Spikes, PSA, or Anderson. I don't have any personal knowledge of the other two.

I guess my question would be, "Why .308?"

Nearly everything is different on the larger platform than on the AR15 platform. Not much is compatible or able to cross between the platforms.

dsdmmat · Apr 17, 2017

1075tech said:
Spikes, PSA, or Anderson. I don't have any personal knowledge of the other two.

I guess my question would be, "Why .308?"

Nearly everything is different on the larger platform than on the AR15 platform. Not much is compatible or able to cross between the platforms.

Why? Because 308. LOL

There are two competing patterns for the AR308, Armalite and DPMS. If you stick with the same pattern throughout your build you won't have any issues.

1075tech · Apr 17, 2017

Yeah. Had a DPMS 308. Sold it to fund my second 6.5 Grendel build.

dsdmmat · Apr 17, 2017

DarkMagic said:
well i just got off the phone with a local gun store and they have a DPMS lower built, minus the stock for 249. DPMS will sell me a complete upper for 694 and i need a windham stock for 100 so for 1050 i can have myself a very nice 308. why 308 you ask? because 308 like dsdmmat said, its bigger and badder then 556. i don't care for a 556 its such a small round if you think about it. DPMS said they are out of stock until fall and they want 409 for a stripped lower LOL. the guy on the phone said Armalite would be his choice, but then i said i heard they are going under after they sold, and he agreed. So why recommend? Idiot.

I do like the 6.5 but mine is for home defense not 1000m range

I am building a 6.5 creedmoor upper for one of my 308 lowers.

dsdmmat · Apr 17, 2017

DarkMagic said:
well i just got off the phone with a local gun store and they have a DPMS lower built, minus the stock for 249. DPMS will sell me a complete upper for 694 and i need a windham stock for 100 so for 1050 i can have myself a very nice 308. why 308 you ask? because 308 like dsdmmat said, its bigger and badder then 556. i don't care for a 556 its such a small round if you think about it. DPMS said they are out of stock until fall and they want 409 for a stripped lower LOL. the guy on the phone said Armalite would be his choice, but then i said i heard they are going under after they sold, and he agreed. So why recommend? Idiot.

I do like the 6.5 but mine is for home defense not 1000m range

Make sure it is a gen one upper before you buy it. Not sure if they sell the gen 2 yet but just in case.

stuck in ny · Apr 18, 2017

Why are 7.62x51 ar type rifles so expensive compared to the 5.56x45 variety? Is it just supply/demand or are the specs higher quality for the higher pressures on the ar10.

Cleck · Apr 18, 2017

I'm guessing just because everything else is bigger. Simple and shortest answer. That's why a full .22 AR would be cheaper than a 5.56 (I'm guessing).

Exonautic · Apr 18, 2017

DarkMagic said:
I do like the 6.5 but mine is for home defense not 1000m range

A HD AR10? I hope you know what youre doing with this. 308 does overpentrate at short ranges. Hell even at long range. Thats why most people go 223/556 for HD. .22 at high speed will shatter upon impact, leaving little left to overpenetrate and everything left in the bad guy. A bigger hole does not always mean more EFFECTIVE damage.

stuck in ny · Apr 18, 2017

Exonautic said:
A HD AR10? I hope you know what youre doing with this. 308 does overpentrate at short ranges. Hell even at long range. Thats why most people go 223/556 for HD. .22 at high speed will shatter upon impact, leaving little left to overpenetrate and everything left in the bad guy. A bigger hole does not always mean more EFFECTIVE damage.

You mean dual wielding Para FALs isn't the best hd set up?

Exonautic · Apr 18, 2017

stuck in ny said:
You mean dual wielding Para FALs isn't the best hd set up?

Thats ideal if you don't intend on firing a shot.

Podmonkey · Apr 18, 2017

Y'know what .308 has on other calibers such as 6.5 Creedmoor? I can go into Cabellas and buy a 500 round can of it, that's what.

Eddie Gunks · Apr 18, 2017

dsdmmat said:
There are two competing patterns for the AR308, Armalite and DPMS. If you stick with the same pattern throughout your build you won't have any issues.

Uuuummmm? There are more now. They have those "hybrid" smaller 308 out now. Smaller bolt etc etc.

AND. Most important not all dpms patterns fit on all the other dpms patterns. Ask me how i know. Psa is one that does not fit.....

Podmonkey · Apr 18, 2017

The DPMS is actually the SR-25 pattern Kights Armament came up with correct? I belive that such is the more common pattern? Certainly for magazines.

Cippee · Apr 18, 2017

I have a ccmg ar-10 it shoots very well.

gun_slinger_boy · Apr 18, 2017

Bullet Guy said:
Uuuummmm? There are more now. They have those "hybrid" smaller 308 out now. Smaller bolt etc etc.

AND. Most important not all dpms patterns fit on all the other dpms patterns. Ask me how i know. Psa is one that does not fit.....

Yep. Same size as the 556 but expensive as shit.

Eddie Gunks · Apr 19, 2017

DarkMagic said:
.....I just want a mil spec ar10......

No such thing as milspec ar10/ar308. That is why this discussion is happening.

Buy upper and lower from the same manufacturer. Make sure you buy the correct handguard rail hieght too.........there are 3 different heights for the dpms pattern alone.

Brain hurt yet? :popcorn:

Robin · Apr 19, 2017

DarkMagic, I looked into building an A10 myself and finally just threw up my hands, nothing is standardized, everything is over priced, by my calculations. I think you would be further ahead with the .223 configuration, and if you want a big bore, those are readily available for that format.
Robin

Marine Cpl · Apr 19, 2017

Robin said:
DarkMagic, I looked into building an A10 myself and finally just threw up my hands, nothing is standardized, everything is over priced, by my calculations. I think you would be further ahead with the .223 configuration, and if you want a big bore, those are readily available for that format.
Robin

I agree. I normally want a standard caliber that you can get anywhere but the way I see it, if you want a .308 for the occasional hunt, or an occasional range day at 600 to 1000 yards and your primary is already a .223, a Grendal upper is cheaper along with the ammo to go with it.

dwa12479 · Apr 19, 2017

Robin said:
DarkMagic, I looked into building an A10 myself and finally just threw up my hands, nothing is standardized, everything is over priced, by my calculations. I think you would be further ahead with the .223 configuration, and if you want a big bore, those are readily available for that format.
Robin

I'd love an A10 myself. Badass as they come....

dsdmmat · Apr 19, 2017

DarkMagic said:
6.5 creedmore?

Creedmoor would require a 308 sized upper and lower.

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