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VietnamEraVet said:
Here is something I don't understand. At the 6PM EST news conference, the Sheriff said that the hotel security guard who went to his room on the 32nd floor in response to a noise complaint (apparently from when he knocked out the windows with a hammer) was shot in the leg by the shooter through the door, and was NOT killed. And this was right before he started his shooting spree.

Soooooo..., here is what I want to know:

I would presume the security guard retreated, called 911, and said I've been shot by someone in Room 32XX. So, WHY did it take the police 72 minutes to breach into that room? Why was it reported that they did not know what room, OR EVEN WHAT FLOOR HE WAS ON? Supposedly, the police started on the 29th floor and worked their way up to the 32nd floor. WHY???

Las Vegas has a full time SWAT team. What took them 72 minutes to get in there? And exactly how long was the shooter actually shooting? Was it only 5 or 10 minutes, or was it longer?

The timeline details at this point aren't lining up for me. And it sure would have been nice if someone had inquired about that at the news conference, instead of having the politicians get up and speak for their future campaign commercials.
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Mike says:
October 2, 2017 at 7:20 pm


This guy did not do this. I know guys like him, I used to live in Vegas and been to Mesquite to many times to count. Look at the photo, this guy is the guy that gets excited over one thing, Sea Food and Prime Rib night at the casino buffet. No History of anything, nothing, well off, a pilot with two planes, little Philippino woman, a favorite of retirees in Vegas, hit the casino, hit the buffet, life is good. The only thing this guy shot was one to many Crown Royals. He did not go to Vegas and set up and run a full blown military operation.

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October 2, 2017 at 7:42 pm


“This guy did not do this.” I agree. The whole thing is fishy. I think he was set up. He was likely killed by the real perps. His brother said he is not even a gun guy, so where do all the guns come from. Also — there are way more guns there than anything reasonable even for a planned killing. Makes no sense. But since we are now told about all these guns and ammo in his house, that signals FBI or CIA (deep state, anyway). The guns were planted.

Las Vegas Shooting Suspect – Stephen Craig Paddock
 
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livingston said:
From the comments section ...
Mike says:
October 2, 2017 at 7:20 pm


This guy did not do this. I know guys like him, I used to live in Vegas and been to Mesquite to many times to count. Look at the photo, this guy is the guy that gets excited over one thing, Sea Food and Prime Rib night at the casino buffet. No History of anything, nothing, well off, a pilot with two planes, little Philippino woman, a favorite of retirees in Vegas, hit the casino, hit the buffet, life is good. The only thing this guy shot was one to many Crown Royals. He did not go to Vegas and set up and run a full blown military operation.

MaryLS says:
October 2, 2017 at 7:42 pm


“This guy did not do this.” I agree. The whole thing is fishy. I think he was set up. He was likely killed by the real perps. His brother said he is not even a gun guy, so where do all the guns come from. Also — there are way more guns there than anything reasonable even for a planned killing. Makes no sense. But since we are now told about all these guns and ammo in his house, that signals FBI or CIA (deep state, anyway). The guns were planted.

Las Vegas Shooting Suspect – Stephen Craig Paddock
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I'm just some guy on the internet reading all the same stuff you are but this whole thing stinks even more than Sandy Hook. Something else is going on here. I can't believe one person could rain down this much carnage. I suppose there could have been more causalities if these were special ops types doing this but they may have pulled back so-to-speak to make it look like a non-professional did this.

I have nothing to back any of this up. Just my own internal musings. Tin foil hat firmly placed on.
 
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There are videos out that seems to show there was gunfire coming from the 4th floor.
 
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Also, there are more cameras in those hotels than you can count, - including on elevators and floors. I want to see the time stamped footage from that area. It should show the guard being shot, all the way up to and including breaching the room.

Now, of course, if the tapes don't exist due to some "glitch", well then, something will really be wrong somewhere.
 
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Catskillkid said:
I can't believe one person could rain down this much carnage. I suppose there could have been more causalities if these were special ops types doing this but they may have pulled back so-to-speak to make it look like a non-professional did this.
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Why not? At 400 yards at the elevated position he was in he could probably shoot from the hip and hit people with the bullet drop. I was telling my girlfriend I was surprised the death toll wasn't much higher. 22000 people!
 
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Not sure if you guys like Alex Jones or not... But this is an interesting segment that he did


He is hyping up the antifa November protests/riots/attacks
 
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Willjr75 said:
I see now.
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I think it was a Vista suite. This video shows the 2 bedroom suite. It doesn't wrap that far around the front of the building. It also shows the correct view of the concert area, but it's from the 8th floor.

The Vista suite is shown here, with the wrong view. You can see the bedroom has a longer length of windows.
 
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Willjr75 said:
I just saw live footage of the 2 windows on Fox. The curtain was blowing in the wind. It matches the potential mock-up picture. So does anybody have any theories to why 2 windows so far apart?
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Both windows are in the same 2-bedroom suite. This was confirmed by someone who stayed in that suite the year before.
 
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Podmonkey said:
The only things effective against a heavily armed, entrenched target firing at range would be a skilled, concealed marksman or explosive indirect fire. There was nothing anyone on the ground could have done.
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Correct. So what could / would an automatic weapon have done against the shooter on the 32nd floor of a high rise unless you you were there to confront him/her?
 
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Easy to check, there should be footage of broken windows at that level, could just be reflection too. Don't know.
 
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Joe Blow said:
Correct. So what could / would an automatic weapon have done against the shooter on the 32nd floor of a high rise unless you you were there to confront him/her?
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Early on in the scanner audio they knew where the gun fire was coming from. A sniper on the ground with a bolt gun could have ended this much sooner.
 
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I smell a conspiracy or something. there is something they're hiding from us, I don't feel like this was a 1 man job
 
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FrankenCub said:
Early on in the scanner audio they knew where the gun fire was coming from. A sniper on the ground with a bolt gun could have ended this much sooner.
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Early on they knew?
FrankenCub said:
Early on in the scanner audio they knew where the gun fire was coming from. A sniper on the ground with a bolt gun could have ended this much sooner.
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Possibly. An automatic weapon as alluded to earlier wouldn't have made any difference.
 
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Joe Blow said:
Early on they knew?


Possibly. An automatic weapon as alluded to earlier wouldn't have made any difference.
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Have you listened to the scanner audio? They knew where he was. I must have missed the automatic weapon reference. But still they knew where he was early enough to deploy a sniper and stop him much earlier then he stopped.
Someone estimated the shooting to be around 400yds, hell that's an easy shot, even for most here.
 
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Willjr75 said:
That has significance. But then you go on to say this.

It's the CULTURE.

Just compare Blacks to Asians with regard to School Grades.

Hard-Working and Smart young Blacks are bullied and beaten for "Acting White".

Asians that DON'T get good grades are disgraced.
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That's still not race.

Cultures differ. And some ARE better than others.

People can change their cultures for the better.

I'm not taking that back.
 
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