Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
just standing there while the FFL is on the phone or computer is a Right Delayed ..
Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?
- Thread starter Beerman
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just standing there while the FFL is on the phone or computer is a Right Delayed ..
Every argument made against the new ammo BGC can and should be used to fight gun BGCs.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I think FFLs will start just selling ammo background checks be damned. That's my prediction.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
Not sure how they'll get away with that if they're doing the other ammo sale paperwork that's been required for the last year
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
They will just get it shipped in from another state with the drugs or separately. Most won’t bother with having someone buy them ammo. The criminal next door will but gang members won’t.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Not a chance. Remember the state holds their license and the state can revoke it. I’m sure that the state handles the pistol licensing for NYS and you need to have NYS approval to sell pistols, same with ammo. If they fail to do background checks they will no longer be able to sell guns and ammo in NYS.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Ammo background check call center, please hold.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
That’s an insult to monkeys.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
no way, the spirit of rebellion is dead in NY
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
So can anyone that tried to buy ammo tell us their first hand experience trying to buy yesterday and with system down.
Did you get it or refused to sell........
I may go tomorrow to buy some just to experience it myself...gotta get some cash though......no CC's
Did you get it or refused to sell........
I may go tomorrow to buy some just to experience it myself...gotta get some cash though......no CC's
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I think we all know that will never, ever happen…. BUT Joe Random will try to get some .357 for his lever action Henry and pop up on the radar because he doesn’t have a pistol permit yet is obviously buying pistol ammo. I hope Joe’s yellow lab has a bulletproof vest.
GNAP
.40 S&W
I bought 800 rounds of 22LR, yesterday, it took about 10 minutes from start to finish
How many customers and employees working?
Mom & Pop or Big Box?
Did you fill out and certify with your signature that the statements you made on the form are true and correct?
No judgement, only curiosity.
Hochulsucks1234
.44 mag
I did some calculations. If I bought ammo on average a couple dozen times a year, thats 60 bucks in the NY fee. Then the average of 10 min wait equates to about 4hrs of my life (assuming no delays, denials). I can shoot down to PA and back in same amount of time. The cost in gas would be cheaper too (also factoring in sales tax savings).
So background check nonsense aside, for those that purchase ammo frequently, it is cheaper and more timely to go out of state and get ammo. Thanks NY.
So background check nonsense aside, for those that purchase ammo frequently, it is cheaper and more timely to go out of state and get ammo. Thanks NY.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
I was tempted to do the same. What did you put for serial number on the ammo? I am not sure about the alias name part. Not sure if that would include maiden name. And it has been 42 years since I used it.
I agree, it is disgusting!
Has anyone gone to a big box for ammo? Do they have a form cause there is not one anywhere that I can find. I am thinking it is log the info as it is still required and go from there. Asking the additional questions about military, name etc.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Here is the newest message on the sign in page.
An Interactive Voice Response (IVR) telephone solution is in the process of being implemented but will not be available until October. All National Instant Background Check ("NICS") transactions will need to be processed online.
Annnnd, I am having trouble getting beyond that page, again.
An Interactive Voice Response (IVR) telephone solution is in the process of being implemented but will not be available until October. All National Instant Background Check ("NICS") transactions will need to be processed online.
Annnnd, I am having trouble getting beyond that page, again.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
Our local gun club forwarded the members a copy of the form that ammo buyers are being asked to fill out.
Ironically, while NYS is replacing NICS for the background check, the form requests that you include a NICS UPIN number if you have one.
jimc
.223 Rem
It's been 10 years since this system was mandated, and no one has setup the phone system? In the private sector, people would have been fired after a few weeks of missing a deadline.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
I tried for about 45 min to do a ammo bgc, lots of glitches. I fianlly went to Incognito on Chrome and got it done. I did not put my maiden name in, sorry, I have to think about what it even is now, 42 years is a long time.
Had to put in Social Security number, not optional.
Street address and occupation are both mandatory.
I feel sick to my stomach.
ETA: I passed with "Congratulations"
Had to put in Social Security number, not optional.
Street address and occupation are both mandatory.
I feel sick to my stomach.
ETA: I passed with "Congratulations"
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
I tracked down the NYS NICS Hotline Headquarters. I took a picture of the place. I'm guessing you'll be on hold for awhile to get approval.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Thanks for the update. Sounds like there’s a bit of a hurdle to jump over on the FFL’s side, but it’s possible to complete a sale with an approval. I’m willing to bet $5 there will be changes and other obstacles in the first few months. The annoyance, oppression, overreach and infringements will last well beyond that, I have no doubt. Ugh.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
Ahhh they leased the ol' homestead 2 on skinwalker ranch!! no glitches on those servers will occur.......
Hochulsucks1234
.44 mag
So with the email address requirement...they dont actually send anything to it, right? Because if I purchase a gun I plan to use a made up one.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Use NYSNICS@NYS.gov if you want. It won’t matter. They’ll still have your SSN, ph, address, d.o.b. and short & curlies.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I will never u sweat and the occupation requirement. I still don’t for a pistol permit??
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Wait you need your email address now? Well I guess they have it already for the pistol permit renewal since I did mine today and I received a follow up email.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
I saw a comment on Reddit where a FFL bought a box of .22 before he opened the shop for the day to see how the process would go. He wound up delayed 4 hours, and ultimately was denied. An FFL was denied to buy a box of .22. Let that sink in.
Edit: He wasn't denied.
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