Bustedknees
.308 Win
Alright, enough already! I didn't send all you too soft for NY traitors to Penn State to sit on your asses. Someone must have dealt with Grant from Sportsman Supply.
Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?
- Thread starter Beerman
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1075tech
.338 Win Mag
I guess I should know this....but....
Does this cover private sales into NY?
Does this cover private sales into NY?
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I dont recall anything being mentioned about private sales.
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The ammo background system is unconstitutional as its rules for use are only directed toward the legal ammo buyers. It just produces a database on you and your calibers. Its probably given directly to ATF to plus up what they already know about you.
The system has to be programed harvestable leads for arrestable offenses.
Sorry pistol caliber carbine people but pistol ammo has to be restricted to pistol permit holders. The semi-auto license will be your savior. The system can easily enforce this and it needs to be an offense to attempt. They leave this open for some stupid reason.
Then ammo sales to a known felon address? Deny and take note as there is a weapon at that address. Red flag for safe storage inspection.
The system has to be programed harvestable leads for arrestable offenses.
Sorry pistol caliber carbine people but pistol ammo has to be restricted to pistol permit holders. The semi-auto license will be your savior. The system can easily enforce this and it needs to be an offense to attempt. They leave this open for some stupid reason.
Then ammo sales to a known felon address? Deny and take note as there is a weapon at that address. Red flag for safe storage inspection.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
FUNY!
Robin
Robin
Old Jalopy
9mm
What gets me with this are some of the indoor ranges who now made a rule you have to buy your ammo on site to use the range. You can no longer bring your own. Nothing like someone trying to force me into an illegal database for ammo. I thought gun shops/ranges were supposed to be on our side, but lately I find that's not the case.
Brawny71
.45 acp
Most of the range changes are due to ammo (steel inserts and the like) being used at ranges and causing damage. Some have also moved to flangable rounds due to hazmat costs.
Old Jalopy
9mm
So make a rule about what ammo can be used on premises. I'd be OK with them having to look/inspect for safety reasons. Don't jump on the wagon and force people to have to submit themselves to what most of us feel are unconstitutional laws, though, because that makes them no better than whose implementing the laws in the first place.
Brawny71
.45 acp
Recommend it to them. I also thought there was a clause that if you paid for ammo to be used on the range or club a background was not required.
At the ranges I go to down here in NC & SC, you can bring your own ammo to shoot with. They only require you to purchase ammo there if you are renting one of their guns, as they are concerned with someone using hot loads, and possible damage or liability issues.
Get yourself a C&R/03 FFL and avoid a lot of the hassle.
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Old Jalopy
9mm
I suggested that to one place and was more or less told to kick rocks as he stated if I didn't like the rules I could go elsewhere. I did, and never stepped foot back. I'm all for making money if you run a business, as long as you're doing it ethically. Never heard that clause, but if it's true, what would stop someone from buying 5 boxes of ammo and only using three? Now you'd have to either be given a refund for the lats two boxes, have to have the check to leave with them, or just leave with them. So, with the latter, what's to stop someone from doing that each time they go to that range? It is what it is, and I'm too old and stubborn to deal with that crap, LOL.