ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Since you are lawyering up, may as well go for unrestricted.
Denied my Sportsperson amendment!!!
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I'll second this.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
go find Rob Astorino,, see if he's worth a shit or all talk..
I only have my licence a year and can't imagine that happening. But I will inquire.
I would second the comment which recommended taking out references to specific animals (especially mountain lion).
Just keep it simple: you want to be able to carry a sidearm in case you run into aggressive predators. Also, if you hunt or track wounded game, you could bring up the use of a sidearm for those purposes too.
Just keep it simple: you want to be able to carry a sidearm in case you run into aggressive predators. Also, if you hunt or track wounded game, you could bring up the use of a sidearm for those purposes too.
garyv350
.357 mag
So 15 weeks ago the sporstman application was still available? Because as of now I don't see that as an option anymore. That might be your problem. Fighting for something that doesn't exist anymore. Heard they were removing it because of too many people getting caught treating it like a full carry
Get the gunz first. Send in the amendments and while you are waiting you can regroup and figure out what you want to do with your restrictions. BTW the home inspection is a big nothing. The detective dosen't want to be there as much as you don't want him there.
Just got off the phone with Amy and was told that the letter is perfect and should be no reason to deny my request. She also said that from what the county letter stated, it's the denial for an unrestricted and not Sportsperson. She also stated that I should have received a phone call from the judge prior to the denial, which didn't happen. She's going to get the letter from the county and she will be speaking with the judge. Now this is where it gets even shittier, if I appeal three things can happen, actually four. 1) he could approve it 2) he could deny it again 3) he could just ignore it (really) 4) this could be a big waist of money.
I did hear that.
She said the same thing, send in the paperwork for the pistols. I was going to include a picture of my safe and keypad for my central alarm with the hopes of getting it faster.
She told me ain't going to happen, don't even bother!
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Isn't lovely to live in a state let alone a county that's gunhoe when it comes time of sucking up your tax dollars and raising those amounts at a drop of a dime but saids a Big Fuck You when it comes to your God Given Rights 
Fuck You judges and all of lands crooked politicians 
@tommygunz I wish you luck patriot but take it from me when possible seek some freedom 
Fuck You judges and all of lands crooked politicians @tommygunz I wish you luck patriot but take it from me when possible seek some freedom I'm just pointing out that Mountain Lion don't inhabit NY, and the judge might get the wrong impression if you're citing that animal's presence as a reason for your unrestricted carry.
Also, what is a "sportsman" carry? According to Penal law 400, there is no such thing. The most permissive carry permit you can get, according to that law, is "have and carry concealed, without regard to employment or place of possession, by any person when proper cause exists for the issuance thereof " which is informally referred to as 'unrestricted.' There is no target/hunting only permit type according to that law.
I've lived in NY for 59 years and in Westchester for the past 27. Trust me as soon as my wife can retire (5 years) I'm taking my 5 figure tax dollars I pay on my home, my business and getting my ass out of here and will seek my freedom.Isn't lovely to live in a state let alone a county that's gunhoe when it comes time of sucking up your tax dollars and raising those amounts at a drop of a dime but saids a Big Fuck You when it comes to your God Given Rights
The letter can't be changed, it was already submitted.
That's exactly what Amy said, the denial has nothing to do with this type of amendment.
My nephew had one on a trail cam a couple years ago in Owego, NY right next to Lockheed Martin.
garyv350
.357 mag
But does sportsman still exist? I don't see it as an option.
That's why there is a perception held by some that mountain lion do in fact reside in NY: because everyone's uncle, nephew, grandfather, ect. has seen one...
Yet it when it comes time to produce concrete evidence (tracks, a kill site, scat samples, a photo that isn't grainy as s#%t) there isn't jack squat...
Not "seen one"...has images of one. He sent it to a Zoologist who confirmed it was a Cougar/Mountain Lion. Believe it or don't. Doesn't matter to me either way.
Unless you want to provide pictures and the reference to the zoologist who "confirmed" the sighting, I call BS. I also find it hard to believe that an accredited zoologist would "confirm" a cougar sighting and not tell the DEC about it.
Since the early 1900's (when they were extirpated), there has only been one confirmed cougar sighting in NY; that was a transitory one that briefly moved through the state before getting killed by a car in Connecticut.
All the other "sightings" have been unsubstantiated claims made by people who let their imaginations run wild.
Sorry to hear that, totally sucks!
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Not true man.
Saw a cougar the other day.
Well, more accurately at night.
http://www.thecougarclub.co/
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Work safe?
I suspect with OP a stone’s throw from Manhattan his odds are extremely low.
This is one option, albeit a real pain in the butt. Do you have any good friends or relatives in upstate, in a friendlier 2A county? If you do, “transfer” your pistol permit file from your current country to the county your relative/friend lives in.
You’ll have to have some bill in your name, (cable, water, gas) something that tells them you have “moved” to this particular county. The receiving file county will issue you a full unrestricted permit for that county.
Then wait 6-8 months, do a change of mailing address on your 2A friendly counties permit.
So you’ll live in you current co, but have a completely unrestricted NYS permit from the upstate county. Couple people in my gun club have done this....
You’ll have to have some bill in your name, (cable, water, gas) something that tells them you have “moved” to this particular county. The receiving file county will issue you a full unrestricted permit for that county.
Then wait 6-8 months, do a change of mailing address on your 2A friendly counties permit.
So you’ll live in you current co, but have a completely unrestricted NYS permit from the upstate county. Couple people in my gun club have done this....
Didn't Heller affirm any sort of "proper cause" clause as unconstitutional?
I actually do. He's my best friend of 42 years. I may just look into that.
I think the Heller decision ruled against DC's outright ban on handgun ownership.
The ruling still left some leeway for lower federal or state courts to have some discretion on certain issues (ie requirements/restrictions for conceal carry or owning so-called "weapons of war").
Here's a bit of correspondence about that issue , if it even is one.
"The Judges can issue ANY restriction that they want to – Sportsperson included.
As far as I know, it is the County Executive/Department of Public Safety made the decision to remove the form from their website and the Clerk’s Office. It is not up to the Department of Public Safety – they have absolutely NO ROLE AT ALL in the licensing process except to perform an investigation of the application and send the results of the investigation to the judge.
If the licensing judges made that decision collectively and then instructed the Department of Public Safety to remove the forms that would allow someone to apply for the Sportsperson license, that’s a different story – but then I would argue that their decision to collectively get rid of the Sportsperson license was arbitrary and challenge it in court. There is no reasonable basis for disallowing it across the board, particularly when it has been available for about 15 years.
I will get clarification from the judges as soon as possible".
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
The problem with this though, is that the judge in the new county may not allow for this or may simply refuse to do amendments. Plus if it does work out fine doing it that way, you are still talking about having to make the trip up to that county just to add an amendment. May still be worth getting unrestricted though. I'll add that I heard this is okay when you are talking about adjacent counties, but I'm not sure about counties that are across the state.