Xae289
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It's called a "wheel" gun because it's from back when they invented the wheel.
Lets talk Red Dots on handguns
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Phazer
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I'm interested in a micro compact red dot for a Glock 43. I've wanted to try the Holosun 507K-X2. I cannot seem to find them anywhere? I don't want to send my slide out to get milled until after I get an optic (just in case I cannot get the optic for which I've had the slide milled).
Have these Holosun sights been discontinued as a result of the lawsuit against Holosun by Trijicon?
Have these Holosun sights been discontinued as a result of the lawsuit against Holosun by Trijicon?
Nope the lawsuit has been fixed. They had to change the button size on all or some of the optics so they are probably going to be shipping soon
TopShot
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I have a new Holosun 508T-V2-GR sight.
I noticed when I tilt the muzzle of the gun downward I see a
red line (reflection) running from one side of the glass to the other.
Is this normal ?
I noticed when I tilt the muzzle of the gun downward I see a
red line (reflection) running from one side of the glass to the other.
Is this normal ?
How bright do you have the optic turned up? When I turn my rmr up relatively bright, you start to get artifacts of the led bouncing around the inside of the optic.
TopShot
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I had it on auto in my house.
I'll try lowering the brightness.
I think it may be a reflection from where the front glass is glued at the bottom.
When I tilt the muzzle all the way up I get a green line across the bottom of the sight.
I'll try lowering the brightness.
I think it may be a reflection from where the front glass is glued at the bottom.
When I tilt the muzzle all the way up I get a green line across the bottom of the sight.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Thanks. I'll have to wait to get my slide milled, then.
I'm considering using Battlewerx.com. Their prices and reviews seem reasonable.
The red led when turned up bright in general will emit light that bounces off the internal housing of the optic which in turn reflect of the glass and back to your eye. So if the brightness is turned up and reflecting off the surfaces inside, it can create lines.
I’ve noticed on some red dots the red lines will run pretty much the edge of the glass on the inside of the optic. Which only way I can describe it is the optics glass kind of acts in the way a fiber optic cable acts to light. If the brightness is turned up relatively high, the led hits the optics lens and then will travel through the lens to the edges where the light has no where else to travel to that’s why you see the red light around the edges of the optic window.
Is this optic on a gun that will ever be used in a defensive situation?
TopShot
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Not mounted yet but will be.
TopShot
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Even with the brightness turned all the way down inside or outside a red line
(reflection) is seen along the top of the glass when the muzzle is tilted down.
Is this something that is common on Holosun red dots ?
(reflection) is seen along the top of the glass when the muzzle is tilted down.
Is this something that is common on Holosun red dots ?
I’d suggest turning the auto brightness off if you’ll be using it for any defensive situation. But try it out for yourself. The auto brightness is nice for conserving battery but it’s not optimal all the time. You can really see the flaw in using the auto brightness when you and your target are in two different lighting conditions. For example, stand in a very darkly lit room and aim somewhere that’s very well lit (like outside through a window), the optic will be very dim since you’re standing in a dark area and the reticle will be pretty much unusable and washed out. Same thing happened being in a dark house and the reticle will auto dim, but when you momentarily turn your weapon mounted light (or handheld) light on, your reticle will be washed out. The opposite happens when you’re in a very bright area and aiming into somewhere dark. Your reticle will be very bright and blooming obscuring your sight picture.
Try and get some pictures of it if you can. I know it’s a little tricky to get reticles and reflections to replicate in pictures.
TopShot
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From that photo it doesn’t look too bad. What I’m seeing is mostly the coating on the lens that allows for better battery life. Can’t really pick up the led reflection.
It also depends on lighting conditions in the room. When I look through my RMR, there’s times when it’s clear, slightly blue. But that’s just based on how the light in the room is hitting the glass. You can see here how the glass looks like it changes color. (Don’t mind the messy closet lol)
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TopShot
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The reflection is on the other side of the lens.
It seems the light is emitting off the clear glue which holds the red tinted glass to the bottom of the frame.
I wonder if I took a black sharpie and colored the glue black would it stop the reflection.
I will test with a piece of black paper and see what happens.
It seems the light is emitting off the clear glue which holds the red tinted glass to the bottom of the frame.
I wonder if I took a black sharpie and colored the glue black would it stop the reflection.
I will test with a piece of black paper and see what happens.
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TopShot
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Reflection disappears if you cover glue bead along bottom of lens with paper.
Too tight to get in with a sharpie.
Marker will wind up on lens.
Too tight to get in with a sharpie.
Marker will wind up on lens.
If that’s the route you’re going to go, this would probably work better.
While I have no experience with Holosun, I have been told they have good customer service. Why not send it back if you are not happy with it?
TopShot
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I called customer service and told them about the slight red line (reflection) across the top of the lens when I point the muzzle down. They said the reflection is "kinda" normal, probably caused by an excessive bead of glue sealing the lens.
I also mentioned coloring the bead of glue with a fine sharpie. He thought that would work.
If I wanted, I could send it back and they would replace it with a 508T- X2-GR which has the smaller side buttons.
After looking at all the images on line of the same RDS the glue beads all look the same.
It would be a moot point to send it back. I decided to keep it and sent it L&M Precision Gunworks in NC along with my Glock 19 Gen5 slide to be milled. I will let you know how it works out. Thanks for all the feedback.
I also mentioned coloring the bead of glue with a fine sharpie. He thought that would work.
If I wanted, I could send it back and they would replace it with a 508T- X2-GR which has the smaller side buttons.
After looking at all the images on line of the same RDS the glue beads all look the same.
It would be a moot point to send it back. I decided to keep it and sent it L&M Precision Gunworks in NC along with my Glock 19 Gen5 slide to be milled. I will let you know how it works out. Thanks for all the feedback.
Not to mention with how long it’s taking for people to get their Holosun optics recently, who knows how long you would have to wait until you received the replacement.
Phazer
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Alright...now I want red dot optics on as many of my pistols as possible.
I've got a Sig Tacops 1911 (45ACP). It's got the odd-shaped (squarish) Sig 1911 slide. I've been looking for a red dot mounting plate that could replace the rear sight. I'm not having any luck. Has anyone ever come across such an adapter plate?
I've got a Sig Tacops 1911 (45ACP). It's got the odd-shaped (squarish) Sig 1911 slide. I've been looking for a red dot mounting plate that could replace the rear sight. I'm not having any luck. Has anyone ever come across such an adapter plate?
Celt
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Question for those with red dots.
I like the glock 19 because its easier to conceal than a full size like the 17, even though the 17 fits my hand better. I would imagine that with a red dot the longer slide of the 17 is basically negated for sighting purposes. So is there any benefit of going with a larger gun if running a red dot?
I like the glock 19 because its easier to conceal than a full size like the 17, even though the 17 fits my hand better. I would imagine that with a red dot the longer slide of the 17 is basically negated for sighting purposes. So is there any benefit of going with a larger gun if running a red dot?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
A longer barrel will still be more accurate for longer distances. Won't it?
With a 17 over a 19 you’ll still get the benefit of a longer barrel which inherently should be more accurate. You’ll also have more rounds in a 17 mag than a 19 mag (not taking mag extensions into consideration, or the unSafe Act round count restrictions). But if concealability is the main issue and concealing a 17 is difficult for you, I’d choose the 19 and not feel outgunned at all. I love the 19.
Honestly I feel the 17 (and more so with the 34) shoots flatter and is easier to track for follow up shots. Like you the 17/34/45 feel better in my hands, the 19 hump just lands wrong in my palm. And with the right belt/holster combo a 17 is just as easy to coveal as a 19 for me anyways
Celt
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I do see how the 1/2 longer barrel should be more accurate regardless of the sighting system, round count for me is moot unless I move to a free state. I n reality, a 17 shouldnt be that much harder to conceal over the 19. I may look to sell my 21 to snag a 17 mos.