My S&W Twins, Kinda! M&P 40/9 conversion and M&P 22 with Vortex Venom 6 MOA red dots.
Lets talk Red Dots on handguns
- Thread starter Edwardteach72
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S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
I think I’ve boiled it down to this exact same set up myself. What mounting plate did you go with and how do you like the 6moa dot?
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I went with the EGW got it here EGW Sight Mount For Docter,Burris Fastfire, Vortex Venom & Viper for Smith & Wesson M&P
As far as the 6 MOA for shooting steel yesterday was the first time after sighting it in on Saturday, I only shot the M&P 22 and I did like it ( the Holographic sight is newer to me then say a standard red-dot like I had on my Bullseye pistol ) I am thinking about getting a 3 MOA and change out the Sig Romeo 5 on the Ruger PC9 next?
Packman297
9mm
Gen 3 Glock 19 & Gen 4 Glock 17, each with a Suarez custom slide and Trijicon RMR with co-witnessed suppressor height sights.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
Unfortunately according to their site that mounting plate won’t work on the M&P Shield. Looks like I’ll have to go with the one made by Outerimpact.
I had not looked into one for the Shield, at least not yet.
Still have that new 509T alternative that Aaron Cowan has been swearing by. It’s still
Holding up real well, and no one plans on beating the living shit out of their optics like Cowan does. Can’t go wrong with either optics.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Post pics.
As of right now I think I’ll be putting a 508T V2’s in my 34. I sent my 34 slide to be milled also. It’s gonna look great when it’s all done. But before I sent it out, I did some trigger work on it. I’ve adjusted as much of the pre travel that I can take out of it while maintaining the factory trigger bar/shoe, it still has the factory connector, I’ve removed practically all of the over travel, and modified the trigger safety tab so it would still engage with it being much closer. I also trimmed the front face of the trigger safety so that when I’m pressing the trigger, the safety tab sits perfectly flush with the shoe instead of being an annoying bump that sticks out.
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Bustedknees
.308 Win
Nice pistol,, beautiful table !!
Some sanding paper and a heat gun should clean the edges up nicely.
Just finished doing exactly that.
Anybody that's thinking about doing this, you may read that it takes some practice to find the dot. I rarely get to shoot, and maybe it's my lack of pistol irons usage, but I'm having zero issues with that. Dot has lined up for me perfectly on every draw. This has to go back to Ruger for a barrel recall, and then we shall see how hard it is for me to aquire the dot after recoil.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Since installing my red dot on my G19, I've been dry firing for a few minutes each day. The muscle memory that gets developed makes acquiring the red dot much easier.
As with everything firearms related....practice.
My biggest problem was where to focus my eyes. Because I'm a relativity new pistol shooter I have been meticulous about focusing on the front sight post. I have found when running a red dot it better to focus on the target rather than up close. I doesn't sound like a big deal but when I was shooting the defensive pistol course you could see in the videos and time that it slowed me down when I focused wrong.
I'm fairly new to pistols myself, but went with red dots on my ar's right away. I haven't really used iron sights much since I was really young. This seems like it's going to be a great fit for me on the pistol, especially since my close range vision is starting to go.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I have noticed the opposite.
I've run many rapid fire drills at my indoor range. I find that the red dot helps me get back on target much faster. I just "ride the bounce" of the red dot as I do with a rifle. I'm looking for combat accuracy. When the dot is just above or below the target, and is moving towards center mass (or the center of my target), I fire. I'm getting pretty reasonable at quick mag dumps into a 6 inch circle at 7 yards. I know...that's horrible target shooting. But, I'm just trying to get 10 rounds on target fast.
I find it much easier to shoot with both eyes open with a red dot than it is to focus on a front sight with both eyes open.
Oh it is easier and faster for sure, there is no argument from me. I was talking about when my focus goes to the front sight rather than the target. And because of this my reaction to the dot isn't nearly as fast.
Any of you want to experiment? See my post #12 here.
Wanna Shoot Like John Wick?
Wanna Shoot Like John Wick?
Ask @OnSight Firearms Training (who offer red dot handgun classes) when they may have Center Axis Relock classes. (I can give you a guess when)
Center........... .Axis............ Relo..............
Go ask Taran Tactical.
Or learn how to shoot properly.
Go ask Taran Tactical.
Or learn how to shoot properly.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I’m curious which way you teach for shooting at a target directly on your driver’s side window.
One of the additional benefits of appendix carry is the ability to get to your firearm easily and quickly while seated, especially in a vehicle. I feel that a lot of people don’t truly think of trying to get to their firearm while they are seated in their vehicle with the seatbelt on or are just naive enough to think that it will be easy to. Especially for the majority of people being right handed and their firearm being blocked by the tongue of the seatbelt clicking in to the latch (assuming you’re driving) pretty much right where most people have their firearms or at least preventing them from making it easy to get to the firearm.
