Licensed gun owner claims he was 'manhandled,' injured by Amherst police
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libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
So, now you can just get physically assaulted because someone sees you printing, even if you're not bothering someone?
It doesn't sound justified. I hope he sues whoever reported it, and the police for not using judgement.
repete
.338 Win Mag
It shouldn't have been showing but we can blame this on the media. "I don't think the police had done anything wrong," the witness said in a text message. "They did what they did for people's safety. If you see a civilian with a gun showing it's very scary, especially these days where we hear lots of problems."
It's all about being safe.
It's all about being safe.
Only positive here is this story proves the legal point I constantly make regarding NY’s menacing law and “printing”. No charges, because menacing is not an open ended slippery slope.
That said, this article provides a few “read between the lines” moments which make it clear the involved cops overreacted. Is the incident lawsuit worthy? I don’t know about that. But when the Chief says, “people don’t like being helped to the ground by the police,” it’s pretty obvious force was used which was likely unnecessary.
That said, this article provides a few “read between the lines” moments which make it clear the involved cops overreacted. Is the incident lawsuit worthy? I don’t know about that. But when the Chief says, “people don’t like being helped to the ground by the police,” it’s pretty obvious force was used which was likely unnecessary.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Suppose this was an undercover officer who was roughed up without so much as a conversation?
That cunt should have minded her own damn buisness.
That would have been great. Then as Amherst police chief says "We dusted him off and apologized, and we were on our way."
I’d be looking for details on the original report to police. If someone falsely reported he was waving his firearm around I’d go after them for filing the false report and precipitating a potentially deadly situation that caused the injury. Aren’t there consequences for filing a false report?
This is the new “swatting,”I suppose.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
At the Dummycratic Underground site in the antigun sub forum they use to discuss this as a tactic to use on CCW carriers who printed or accidentally exposed. It never seemed to get much traction. There are those out there who think like this.
A few random thoughts
In this case, printing mattered.
I'm glad he's a retired correction officer not random citizen guy. He is more likely to be taken seriously and it's an example that it can happen to anyone.
The police seemed to grossely and negligently over react
Sounds like the APD needs systemic retraining.
I hope whoever made the exaggerating false police report faces charges.
I hope this guy sues for a lot.
This could have been any of us. Just minding our business going about our day.
Thankfully no one got killed.
In this case, printing mattered.
I'm glad he's a retired correction officer not random citizen guy. He is more likely to be taken seriously and it's an example that it can happen to anyone.
The police seemed to grossely and negligently over react
Sounds like the APD needs systemic retraining.
I hope whoever made the exaggerating false police report faces charges.
I hope this guy sues for a lot.
This could have been any of us. Just minding our business going about our day.
Thankfully no one got killed.
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Justincase
6.5 Creedmoor
She was so concerned that she stuck around to see the aftermath. Cunt.
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
Invest in the correct holster and firearm,YES wouldn't we all like to have a 6" 1911 45 caliber for personal protection, But we have to chose the correct firearm for our body and clothing , Concealed carry means just that concealed carry ,I have to carry a small G43 9mm * shot glock to stay concealed . I am in Florida right now Spring break and house shopping. Almost ever person you see on a motor cycle go by has his or hers shirt flapping in the breeze and a firearm being displayed on there right or left hip . No police being called ,no swat team being dispatched. its just another person on a bike. Just left an early Easter Mass and the row in front of us a 60 plus couple that I could see his firearm under his shirt. Just another person in church no big deal. NY is loaded with Libtards (liberal Retards) that are actually telling police they can't carry because it makes them nervous. I feel I am with like minded people in the south . The only people who don't like guns down here are the visiting Canadians as they all feel only the police should have firearms
Funny how that happens!!
Paxal
.223 Rem
“If you see a civilian with a gun showing it's very scary, especially these days where we hear lots of problems“.
And there you have it...a civilian with a gun.
Assistant Police Chief Charles Cohen said. "We dusted him off and apologized, and we were on our way. But I suppose when you get helped to the floor by police, your next call is probably going to be to a civil attorney."
Smug attitude by this asshole. This prick needs to be fired but that would only lead to full retirement with a 6 figure pension.
Smug attitude by this asshole. This prick needs to be fired but that would only lead to full retirement with a 6 figure pension.
My wife told me about this weeks ago. Medical office grape vine. From what my wife heard the guy identified himself as a retired corrections officer and legal ccw before the police took him down. Also the guy failed to comply, police said get on ground, he said no, they tazed him.
Also from what I heard when he was on the phone, it hasn't a happy call. When he turned his jacket opened and the "lady" seen the pistol, twice. Then told the receptionist.
Also wife told me the woman was from Iran.
Take this with a grain of salt.
Also from what I heard when he was on the phone, it hasn't a happy call. When he turned his jacket opened and the "lady" seen the pistol, twice. Then told the receptionist.
Also wife told me the woman was from Iran.
Take this with a grain of salt.
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Deplorable Me
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The problem with complying with police orders is some people have bad knees, backs, arthritis, heart conditions, prior injuries...........
I'm sure there could be made a case for ADA provisions.
I'm sure there could be made a case for ADA provisions.
repete
.338 Win Mag
Aint that the truth! I can get down on the ground without to much trouble but after that I need help or something to 'climb' on, other wise I'm just going to laying there!
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Think of the poor individual with an artificial leg.....
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
What was the suspected crime? Possession of gun that can be legally owned and carried was grounds to ask to see a pistol permit and that is all. Did police witness an exposed firearm not according to them. One person caused a knee jerk reaction. I love the story, witness states gun was exposed then it gets bumped up to man waving a gun along the way.
How a report is grounds for this type of street swatting is disturbing.
How a report is grounds for this type of street swatting is disturbing.
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Most of the Amherst cops are like the Gestapo of Nazi Germany. The arrogance and ignorance is out of control
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I thought printing wasn't a thing?
I don't worry about printing, and although I think what happened here is bullshit, it's also a good thing. Department will get sued, and also libtards learn that people other than police can carry a gun.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Did you see the other thread where the got shot?
Yes.
In this story, I don't remember the police saying anything. Just walked in while he was reading and took him to the ground. I'll have to re-read.