Maryland SWAT Team Serving Red Flag Warrant Shoot, Kill 21-Year-Old Man Asleep In His Bed
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
me too and some body cam vids
my post 268 is there press release .. case anyone missed it ..
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So based on the report and assuming it is true, let’s look at what is said here. Guy wasn’t allowed by the government to own firearms until the age of 30. I’m rolling my eyes on that one but okay. Let’s roll with it. Let’s disregard that he had a clean record based on other reports. Let’s just go with and say that this guy is a 2A crazy loon with booby traps in the house.
So a tip is made that he’s in possession of them. They have to be removed by the government. So rather than getting them after apprehending him when he leaves the house, to go to work or school or whatever he does, a decision was made that it was safer for all innocents in the home and for the officers themselves to enter an unknown dwelling where he can be barricaded with booby traps ready to fire on his terms.
Now let’s look at this realistically and insert ourselves into the equation. Same scenario. You hear a door or glass busted and immediately in our hands is a pistol at the very least from the nightstand. Perhaps a rifle once our bearings are a little better.
What gives you a greater chance in inflicting harm on those who busted into your house? The scenario above or a scenario where you walk out the front door with a concealed pistol at 4 o’clock in the waistband with a garment over it along with a coffee cup in your left hand and car keys in the other totally oblivious of what’s coming your way?
I was born 45 years ago but not yesterday. Based on my experiences as a Fireteam leader, if it were my call, I would apprehend a haji as he is leaving his dwelling rather than assaulting the dwelling. A dwelling has many variables, choke points and fatal funnels. If outside with my 3 men set up, I own the driveway.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Will, that would be the most obvious path to follow by anyone, period! Except those eager to use the toys given them by their masters.
Robin
Robin
repete
.338 Win Mag
Yep, it's pretty hard to flush a gun down the toilet!
And you know what would make even more sense and make everyone even more safe? Ending the war on drugs, because it is a complete failure, and the last bastion of no-knocks goes away too!
Win-win-win.
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I think I could probably flush my NAA Mini down a urinal.
repete
.338 Win Mag
OK , so there's an exception to every rule. Never gave that lil mini a thought, I've got one too in .22Mag.I think I could probably flush my NAA Mini down a urinal.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No knocks should be reserved for the strictest circumstances.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Haven't you heard? Ghost guns do.
Definitely not drugs. If you have enough for a no-knock, you definitely already surpassed the level if proof necessary for a normal search warrant. Detain them outside and serve the search warrant, problem solved.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Im not against No knocks, But the threshold seems to low .
spat
.700 Nitro Express
In principle, maybe they are necessary.
But the rampant abuse means maybe we need to get rid of them altogether.
Sort of the "you abused this privilege, so now you lose it" kind of thing.
Yep, that means some bad guys will get away. If that's the price of liberty, then so be it.
Well, mebe I got to this late.
The current Title seems factual and fine to me.
Perhaps it was inflammatory before.
I do not know.
Oh wait - it was "This could get ugly"
That was a poor Title - AGREED.
No judgement - BUT THINK of the few members who search before they post so as not to create dupes.
(though I don't mind dupes much at all)
Still, "This could get ugly" tells us nothing.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
The, itself unconstitutional, FISA court hears evidence that allows still more overriding the constitution and evidence shows they are nothing more than a rubber stamp. So I don't expect lessor judges to do anything different.
They could have picked the guy up on the street.
Robin
They could have picked the guy up on the street.
Robin
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
And wannabe special operators.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Imo, only for kidnappings, or if its known that an attempted rape, or murder is about to happen.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I’m late reading this thread but the “professionals” can’t even seem to get the right address many times.
Exigent circumstances would only cover what Celt said if the cop could articulate the need within a very strict definition. It’s very different from a warrant.
Best example would be information that something will happen at this place, at this time, tomorrow. The cop couldn’t just wait until that time and enter. They would need a warrant.
Source?
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
The news, any news.
Robin
Robin
The longer it goes without an update the worse off it looks for the actors.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I don't think they were acting.
Robin
Robin
Actor(s) meaning person(s) that took action.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Years of idiotic blunders all over the news. Feel free to look it up.
You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.
Also hearing a story on the news doesn’t make it common. Notice how the tens of millions of times they had the correct address wasn’t reported? All of the sudden the few times you heard of a story on the news seems pretty rare and insignificant doesn’t it?
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
^ Cumo's man on the street.^
Robin
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Another one just like the other guy that always defends unjust laws who’s always on the government’s side. The government can do no wrong and when they do, so what. It doesn’t happen often.
The government can do no wrong and when they do, so what. It doesn’t happen often.