Mossberg Shockwave

[Tinman]

Has anyone bought one of these short barrel shotguns? How about the Remington Tac 14?
I have been looking at them and trying to decide whether to buy one.

 

[GUNSICK]

Bullet guy has a couple of the Remington's in stock. It's definitely on my short list.

 

[fnfalguy]

I have a shockwave. Started a thread a while ago about it. I'll try to track it down.

 

[fnfalguy]

New purchase because FU NY

 

[Tinman]

Thanks for the link.

 

[Gardnaaa]

The shockwaves are on sale on palmetto right now. Got the email a little while ago.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Decisions, decisions. I was all set to snag a Shockwave and now I find Remington has it's own version. And, BG has a few in stock!

 

[Gardnaaa]

Remington's is prob a sweet gun!

 

[Tinman]

I called Johnson's in Lockport to see if they had any. They told me that they won't carry it and it is not legal in NY. I told them it was and other stores are selling it. They said good for them and hung up on me. Last time I ever go there for anything and they are 15 min from my house. What an asshole.

 

[Tinman]

The Remington Tac 14 only carries 4 + 1 where the Mossy is 5 + 1.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Remington has a steel receiver, the Mossy's is stamped aluminum. Also, I like the slick back radius of the Remington, where the Mossberg has the safety located there. Oh, the decisions... also I'd like to shoot Aguila mini's in whichever I get, and there's an adaptor for the Mossberg, not (yet anyway) for the Remington.

 

[Tinman]

I am trying to decide too. Going to BGC Friday to look at both. They have both in stock. There are a couple of videos comparing them on Youtube. Voodoo Tactical also make a scabbard for it. It is called the voodoo tactical breacher shotgun scabbard. Runs about $26 to $32 depending on where you get it. Looks nice. Will get one of those too. Tough to decide but I have always like Mossbergs. Never have owned a Remington shotgun.

 

[stuck in ny]

I fail to see the point over a normal shotgun. Now if it had a detachable mag (so the capacity isn't determined by the barrel length), the stockiest brace made, them maby.

 

[Tinman]

For me it is just something different. Sure don't need it, just want one.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Need? Need is never applicable to guns imo.

 

[Acer-m14]

i like the Moss special purpose ... one day i'll get one .. pics on other thread

New purchase because FU NY

 

[FLA45fan]

Went to my LGS and they had one on the wall. I wanted something different and it fit the need, but because they weren't sure it's legal, they wouldn't sell it to me. I was first on the list but I haven't heard back from them in a month. Ended up buying a Mini 30 with my spare cash.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Went to my LGS and they had one on the wall. I wanted something different and it fit the need, but because they weren't sure it's legal, they wouldn't sell it to me. I was first on the list but I haven't heard back from them in a month. Ended up buying a Mini 30 with my spare cash.

Too bad. I have some remington tac 14.....
And i understand The laws of the industry that I am part of.

 

[GUNSICK]

Too bad. I have some remington tac 14.....
And i understand The laws of the industry that I am part of.

What do Glory Holes have to do with firearms?

 

[Deplorable Me]

Why the Shockwave vs the 500 w/traditional pistol grip? Just because?
Does the birdshead grip give good control? I like the breacher barrel below, an extra accessory and attention getter.

 

[Tinman]

Well I went and put a deposit on the Shockwave today. No problem with the purchase. Will pick it up in about 3 weeks. I looked at the Remington Tac 14 which is very nice too. I prefer the Mossberg over the Remington.

 

[enigma]

Why the Shockwave vs the 500 w/traditional pistol grip? Just because?
Does the birdshead grip give good control? I like the breacher barrel below, an extra accessory and attention getter.

The short barrel on the Shockwave offers a wider pellet spread. The birdshead mostly compensates for the short barrel to keep the OAL over 26". If you swapped it out for a pistol grip, the gun would be too short.

I once had an opportunity to fire a short barrel NFA 12ga with both a cut off wood stock (just the hand grip area left) and a plastic pistol grip. I recall the cutoff wood stock was much more comfortable. Probably because the recoil gets spread across the palm of your hand, without as much of it going directly between the web of your thumb and forefinger. I would assume the birdshead would be more comfortable than a pistol grip even if the OAL was not an issue.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I fail to see the point over a normal shotgun. Now if it had a detachable mag (so the capacity isn't determined by the barrel length), the stockiest brace made, them maby.

What you are looking for is a black aces tactical

 

[Acer-m14]

The short barrel on the Shockwave offers a wider pellet spread. The birdshead mostly compensates for the short barrel to keep the OAL over 26". If you swapped it out for a pistol grip, the gun would be too short.

I once had an opportunity to fire a short barrel NFA 12ga with both a cut off wood stock (just the hand grip area left) and a plastic pistol grip. I recall the cutoff wood stock was much more comfortable. Probably because the recoil gets spread across the palm of your hand, without as much of it going directly between the web of your thumb and forefinger. I would assume the birdshead would be more comfortable than a pistol grip even if the OAL was not an issue.

how much wider of a spread ???? for a few inches of barrel with clyn bore choke ?? .. what if i use cut shells ??? ...

you get startled from sleep .. and not fully awake whats better to grab ... big Q ..

just a normal shotgun ..

 

[Stretz Tactical Inc.]

I spoke to a Boss at the State Police Pistol Permit unit a few weeks back and he (VERY Pro gun guy) advised that Troopers who came across people in possession of these guns were trying to collar people for possession of these things. He inquired with the SP legal counsel for an opinion and he is still waiting and will probably continue to wait. This state sucks - without a doubt. They could have machine guns, mortars and atomic bombs on sale in a store. The question is, is it worth getting collared and trying to fight it? What does the gun give you that you are willing to go through that. I have been a cop for over 20 years and having worked for a few different agencies, I can tell you that most cops are not gun people. Don't get me wrong - I am Very pro gun and own multiple NFA Items due to my exemption as a Police Officer. Just some friendly advice. I see people pushing the limits all the time. There are tons of people on ranges and in classes, that if someone really looked, might turn and nice day at the range, to a very unpleasant future.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I spoke to a Boss at the State Police Pistol Permit unit a few weeks back and he (VERY Pro gun guy) advised that Troopers who came across people in possession of these guns were trying to collar people for possession of these things. He inquired with the SP legal counsel for an opinion and he is still waiting and will probably continue to wait. This state sucks - without a doubt. They could have machine guns, mortars and atomic bombs on sale in a store. The question is, is it worth getting collared and trying to fight it? What does the gun give you that you are willing to go through that. I have been a cop for over 20 years and having worked for a few different agencies, I can tell you that most cops are not gun people. Don't get me wrong - I am Very pro gun and own multiple NFA Items due to my exemption as a Police Officer. Just some friendly advice. I see people pushing the limits all the time. There are tons of people on ranges and in classes, that if someone really looked, might turn and nice day at the range, to a very unpleasant future.

My LGS has talked to the SP (I believe also got a letter can't remember) and the SP told them that they are kosher

 

[Stretz Tactical Inc.]

My LGS has talked to the SP (I believe also got a letter can't remember) and the SP told them that they are kosher

How long ago? I talked to him a few weeks to a month ago and he still hadn't got an opinion back from them

 

[Edwardteach72]

How long ago? I talked to him a few weeks to a month ago and he still hadn't got an opinion back from them

I'd say 2 months ago

 

[Edwardteach72]

Hell even the local Field and Stream (owned by Dicks aka not that pro 2a) is stocking them when they can keep them on hand

 

[Stretz Tactical Inc.]

I'd say 2 months ago

I just looked in my email - I had called him in regards to an issue I was helping a retiring cop with and the email in regards to the unrelated topic was August 11. I was on the phone maybe a few days to a week before that. I would call the State police Pistol permit unit before you buy one. Just my .02 cents.