Now that we won NYSRPA V Bruen, what comes next ?

[Edwardteach72]

Correct. The new legislation is essentially the byproduct of a juvenile temper tantrum. She will continue to dig in because it helps her politically with her base. Only the courts can make her back down.

And the more aggressive she gets with these responses, the easier they will be to counter and attack..

If she was actually "reasonable" after bruen and made some new gun laws that kinda sucked it wouldn't have been so easy to attack like the ones she did get passed, which when those are struck down it will be an even bigger victory for us

 

[Defilade]

Kind of wondering out loud. As more dominoes fall, is there any chance hochul & co. will feel the loss of support among fellow Governors and relent? I feel that she's a bit of a pedagogue and plays to whatever crowd has the momentum, typical pol, right? As more states moderate their laws to comply (at least superficially) she stands alone in trying to double down in defiance. Is this a political risk she needs to back away from? Or is she so secure in NY that she just doesn't need to give a shit?

She can't think for herself. She is being told what to do by her masters plain and simple. She is a dumb twit!

 

[ManualF150]

She takes the Bruen ruling personally. No way in hell she's going to cave.

Said this from the onset. Can't agree more!

FUKH is one those terrible bosses that takes everything to heart. This is only one example of it. COVID, MonkeyPox, and a host of other problems she has on her track record.

Ain't how you do it in politics or economics sweetheart....

 

[Truebeliever]

They

Correct. The new legislation is essentially the byproduct of a juvenile temper tantrum. She will continue to dig in because it helps her politically with her base. Only the courts can make her back down.

that might be a good thing overall. This overreach is where they go wrong. They throw everything at the wall to see what sticks . But this time might be too much and the courts might spank them

 

[Bigfoot]

She can't think for herself. She is being told what to do by her masters plain and simple. She is a dumb twit!

That's what I think too. That Kathy "back to muskets" Hochul is being told what to do.

That doesn't change the fact that she's an asshole though.

A for real political whore.

 

[livingston]

Supreme Court Decision Forces "Assault Weapon" Ban Hearing By End of Year!!!​

 

[Saltwater60]

watched a video earlier .. Cali is now banning CNC machines that make guns .. unless you have a FFL manufacturing license ..

OKAY .. bruen again .. is my thinking correct ..

history / text / tradition .. thats all they got now ...


wonder if the gun makers in the 1700's , 1800's had FFL manufacturing licensed .. i dont think they had them back then ,,

BYE BYE FFL BS



the cali video ..

Don’t all CRC machines make guns or have that capability?

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

4th circuit will have to rule on Maryland's AWB by the end of the year using text of history.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Siick.. so Maryland will be the first AWB to fall..

Winning

Possibly. Or maybe another state will fold first. You never know. That's my issue with all of these lawsuits though. There are tons in the pipeline with more and more all the time. But how long can the lower courts/states stall? Are there any actual wins since Bruen?

 

[Phazer]

Maryland's ban list makes up half of the recent Democrat House-passed AWB. The other half is the NY SAFE Act.

Can't wait to see what happens if Maryland's law falls and the resulting immediate shouts of "Unconstitutional!" against the new federal Dem legislation.

 

[Acer-m14]

Are AR's now UN-BANNABLE?... They are now more "COMMON" than Ford's F - Series trucks... COMMON USE​

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Are AR's now UN-BANNABLE?... They are now more "COMMON" than Ford's F - Series trucks... COMMON USE​

Eh. It's fun to look at these numbers for academic purposes but the common use argument should be totally dropped when talking about 2A rights. I should be able to have a puckle gun if I so please without worry of being banned because it's not in common use. Historical text should now be the standard when arguing 2A rights.

 

[Phazer]

So, in the long run, New York State could ultimately be responsible for the pathway to overturn "assault weapon" bans, magazine capacity restrictions, and may-issue licensing?

Oh the delicious irony!

 

[camper4lyfe]

Well small update in Miller v Bonta. (California AWB)

Judge Benitez has given both parties 20 days to submit briefs addressing NYSRPA v. Bruen.

View attachment 168593

And it’s all just going through the motions. We already know how Saint Benitez will rule. And we know the state’s response. It’ll be back in the 9th in a flash (in court timelines anyway)

 

[Edwardteach72]

And it’s all just going through the motions. We already know how Saint Benitez will rule. And we know the state’s response. It’ll be back in the 9th in a flash (in court timelines anyway)

That's all good and well because he ruled the 1st time using Text as informed by history, and now he has scotus to back him up with that

 

[Phazer]

And it’s all just going through the motions. We already know how Saint Benitez will rule. And we know the state’s response. It’ll be back in the 9th in a flash (in court timelines anyway)

So, lemme get this straight...the 9th circuit sent Benitez's decision, which was decided on history and text, back to Benitez so that he can make a decision based on history and text in accordance with the Bruen decision which instructs courts to decide based on history and text?

 

[pjzwtl]

Can’t make this crap up

 

[Edwardteach72]

So, lemme get this straight...the 9th circuit sent Benitez's decision, which was decided on history and text, back to Benitez so that he can make a decision based on history and text in accordance with the Bruen decision which instructs courts to decide based on history and text?

Yes.. all they have left to stop the inevitable, is stalling, that's all this is

 

[VietnamEraVet]

So, lemme get this straight...the 9th circuit sent Benitez's decision, which was decided on history and text, back to Benitez so that he can make a decision based on history and text in accordance with the Bruen decision which instructs courts to decide based on history and text?

The anti's are just doing their best to delay, delay, and delay. I can see the 9th Circuit taking well over a year to render a decision against, in which case it will then get thrown back to SCOTUS (and we had better hope Thomas and others are still there...).

In the end if all remains status quo, the anti's will lose, but they are not going without a fight. NY, with Horchul's BS law will be among the loudest screamers, and will fight it to the ends of the earth to preserve their shitty and unconstitutional laws.

 

[pjzwtl]

 

[camper4lyfe]

So, lemme get this straight...the 9th circuit sent Benitez's decision, which was decided on history and text, back to Benitez so that he can make a decision based on history and text in accordance with the Bruen decision which instructs courts to decide based on history and text?

The thing with sending it back to Benitez is that it only covers Benitez’s district. If the 9th ruled on it like they should have, it would be for the entire 9th district, which obviously the Dems just don’t want. But it’s all just a delay tactic.

 

[livingston]

Supreme Court’s Gun Rights Decision Upends State Restrictions​

“We know of no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need,” he wrote.

The ruling fundamentally changes the legal landscape for gun laws, said Hannah Hill, director of research and policy at the National Foundation for Gun Rights, which filed a brief in the case. Gun rights advocates now can “go on the offense,” Hill said. She hopes the “text, history and tradition” test eventually will lead to a day when people in every state can carry firearms without a permit.

“This is going to have massive implications,” Hill said. “It’s a radical test, and if applied accurately it will have radical results. A lot of gun laws will not be able to withstand Second Amendment scrutiny.”

Supreme Court's Gun Rights Decision Upends State Restrictions - Stateline

Shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month that expanded the right to carry firearms outside the home, gun rights activist Andrew Namiki Roberts rushed to the Honolulu Police Department to apply for four permits to carry handguns in public. He was fourth in line, surrounded by...

www.pewtrusts.org

 

[spat]

So, lemme get this straight...the 9th circuit sent Benitez's decision, which was decided on history and text, back to Benitez so that he can make a decision based on history and text in accordance with the Bruen decision which instructs courts to decide based on history and text?

No, they sent it back to him to stall for time while they try to come up with a way to weasel out of affirming his original decision.

There is a very important distinction to be made between "why" government actually does something vs the excuse they offer for doing it.

 

[Acer-m14]

Biden Admin CITING historical religious persecution and racism to JUSTIFY Gun Control...​

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[ManualF150]

Oneida County makes moves in anticipation of new NYS gun laws as legal challenge looms

Oneida County funds the county pistol licensing office. And if New York's concealed carry improvement act becomes law, that is going to become a costlier endeavor.

www.wktv.com

 

[Dr. Evil]

Oneida County makes moves in anticipation of new NYS gun laws as legal challenge looms

Oneida County funds the county pistol licensing office. And if New York's concealed carry improvement act becomes law, that is going to become a costlier endeavor.

www.wktv.com

And just who is going to foot the bill? GET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!

 

[ArmedCorgi]

And just who is going to foot the bill? GET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!

No, stay and fight, lol.

 

[Phazer]

Oneida County makes moves in anticipation of new NYS gun laws as legal challenge looms

Oneida County funds the county pistol licensing office. And if New York's concealed carry improvement act becomes law, that is going to become a costlier endeavor.

www.wktv.com

That will mean hiring an outside vendor.​

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"Cybersecurity company, to look at that, because they have the capability really to zero in on key words, key phrases," says Picente.​

Wow! They'll be hiring private spies (called "cybersecurity vendors") to review citizen's social media accounts to look for writings deemed "unacceptable" by unelected bureaucrats in the government.

This has got to have serious first amendment implications. This is meant to chill discussions that are not supportive of the central government.

 

[ManualF150]

That will mean hiring an outside vendor.​

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"Cybersecurity company, to look at that, because they have the capability really to zero in on key words, key phrases," says Picente.​

Wow! They'll be hiring private spies (called "cybersecurity vendors") to review citizen's social media accounts to look for writings deemed "unacceptable" by unelected bureaucrats in the government.

This has got to have serious first amendment implications. This is meant to chill discussions that are not supportive of the central government.

I smell more lawsuits if this were to be implemented and engaged...