Oh, SR1 is fine, I'll do that. But try doing our little printer targets at 100 yards without magnification, LOL!I have an AR 308 with a red dot that does very well at 100 on the SR1 targets. Suppose next month you and me post up an SR1 target with red dots at 100.
@nortatoga's buckmark has red dot on it. That is why I mention optics division would be the next question.
I think red dots on pistols are more about speed than precision, I see no need to class them seperately for our purposes.
Now scopes, yeah that'd be cheesing it a little.