Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
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livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Another free state joined our fight....You can run ......
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
The delay we are discussing was from the 2nd Circuit (not a county permit office) and they've already been told to get it done in a reasonable time. Days after that instruction, they scheduled 4-5 cases for March 20th, so they took the "suggestion" from SCOTUS seriously and acted quickly.
pshift
.338 Win Mag
What about delays in issuing NYC permits?
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I saw somewhere that a person received the CCW so apparently nothing.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
yes ,, was just saying there are other place causing delays too ..
so beside the 2nd who got spanked
we also have LEO and maybe a Judge causing delays
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Two weeks from tomorrow peeps...
Don't get too excited....the likelihood of a decision on that day is equal to that of accidently crashing into a unicorn being ridden by a leprechaun while Tiny Tim sings Tiptoe through the tulips because you were blinded by a full all the way across the sky double rainbow.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Yeah, there's a chance.So... You're saying there's a chance! Alright!!
There's also a chance that you and I are clones of James Garfield too, but I wouldn't put more than a nickle on that bet.
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
I'm still trying to find where anyone said they expected a decision on March 20th.....
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I don’t think anyone expects a decision on the 20th, well at least they shouldn’t. I’m guessing it will be a few weeks later to make it seem like they care and took time.
Well I DO like lasagna...
Oh, you mean the OTHER Garfield.
But I agree we will likely not have a resolution. Even if it somehow, by some miracle, goes our way, we know the State will only appeal once again, and somehow get yet another rights-infringing stay on the previous decision.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
JunkBoxFull
6.5 Creedmoor
I`m not getting MY hopes up. After-all, it IS the NY government doing what it always does, sh!t on us gun owners.
My timeline prediction:
3/20 hearing will be delayed due to sickness / illness / Covid / power outage / bomb threat / pilots strike / FAA grounding all flights / St. Patty's Day hangovers / Courthouse doors locked and keys lost / Whorecul declares 3/20 a holiday / court reporters strike / natural gas emergency in NYC / or???
Alternate universe timeline:
3/20 hearing occurs. NYS demands extra time to file more contrived BS - 6 months minimum. Plaintiffs file rational, well thought out response within 1 day of NYS BS filing. Court reserves judgement, - for at least 2 years. Dems pack SCOTUS. 2nd Circuit rules against us. Whorecul celebrates. New 99 justice SCOTUS overturns Bruen, Heller, & McDonald. Civil war breaks out. America falls.
I hope to Hell that I am wrong. Somehow, I am not all that confident of a positive outcome for our Constitutional Republic.
3/20 hearing will be delayed due to sickness / illness / Covid / power outage / bomb threat / pilots strike / FAA grounding all flights / St. Patty's Day hangovers / Courthouse doors locked and keys lost / Whorecul declares 3/20 a holiday / court reporters strike / natural gas emergency in NYC / or???
Alternate universe timeline:
3/20 hearing occurs. NYS demands extra time to file more contrived BS - 6 months minimum. Plaintiffs file rational, well thought out response within 1 day of NYS BS filing. Court reserves judgement, - for at least 2 years. Dems pack SCOTUS. 2nd Circuit rules against us. Whorecul celebrates. New 99 justice SCOTUS overturns Bruen, Heller, & McDonald. Civil war breaks out. America falls.
I hope to Hell that I am wrong. Somehow, I am not all that confident of a positive outcome for our Constitutional Republic.
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Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Shit or get off the pot.
My opinion is roughly a year and a half before its resolved. That includes exhausting all appeals through the 2nd, which will include an en banc panel of more than 3 judges. Appeal to the Supreme by plaintiff's, remanded back, GVR, circus starts over again.
Now that's a helluva prop bet.
Now that's a helluva prop bet.
JunkBoxFull
6.5 Creedmoor
................and, wait for it......... RAISE OUR TAXES, because they need MORE WAR FUNDS, to fight us NY folks!
EDIT:
And don`t forget to pay your taxes folks, they`re depending on you!
Oh, and if you`re late paying them, those LATE FEE`S goes right in their pockets, too!
Never forget, government NEVER earns money, it only just takes your money!
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maverick52
.223 Rem
Some lawyer on the case predicts 9mos minimus before 2c rules. I say carry and do your thing
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
case in Florida
"Major Development in the NRA v. Biondi, a three judge panel in the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a Florida statute banning 18-20 year olds from buying firearms"
i know he is geeekie and talks alot .. but this just happened ..
one of the judges says .. poll time .. dealing with the en banc ..
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livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Mar 13, 2023
Supreme Court 6-3 Decision Up For Immediate Emergency Reconsideration!!! N.Y. Stalls!
In this video I discuss the challenge to New York's concealed carry law which is seeking immediate Supreme Court review.
JunkBoxFull
6.5 Creedmoor
Even if the SCOTUS hears the case, they`ll just be really nice and sweet and tell them to fix their little tiny mistake.
Shuffle a couple words around, send it out. It`ll keep the delay`s going. Which is exactly their goal.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
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This could get real, real fast here. This is a very good sign to me IMO.
Hate to say it, but this will be a nothing burger. The SC has proven time and again it waits for all lower court proceedings to occur. I won't get my hopes up.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
They will wait if they can but it seems like they are watching closely and in both this case and our case if they don’t like what they hear they will take the cases up quickly and be favorable for us. Will we get everything we want? Likely no but I’ll bet the liberals will be crying more than we will be.
I personally would love to see the ammo background check go away and I’d buy a celebration case of ammo from TSUSA even though I don’t need anything.
I’m normally the guy that says oh we will get F’d but this feels different to me.
John Stark
.44 mag
The Supremes have been letting states and courts flaunt their rulings on the Second Amendment for 15 freaking years already. Heller was decided in 2008 for God's sake!
There ought to be no extensions given to any state government on this bullshit. The writing has been on the wall since 2008 on how strongly the Second Amendment protects our RKBA, and how little authority the Feds or the States have to squash it. The States have had a decade and a half to sharpen their pencils and write up their twisted and retarded excuses and garbage arguments pertaining to the "poisoned fruit" they have been shoveling with regards to the Second Amendment for the past century.
The delays the Court is allowing smells like nothing more than politics, and indicates to me that the "conservative" majority, once again, has likely gone squishy like they did after for years Heller and McDonald essentially crushed most gun tyranny (at least on paper).
The Court allowed states to fiddle fuck around with our fundamental RKBA post Heller and McDonald far too long, giving the states plenty of wiggle room to pass more egregious laws to suppress our Rights and ignore their rulings and spit in their face. Here we are again looking at years of more bullshit litigation and stonewalling while the Court dithers away our Liberty.
The rulings in Heller, McDonald, Cetano, and Bruen are expansive, very solid, and have teeth, but that means nothing until the Court is willing to allow those rulings to actually BITE and go into effect.
Our own governments, at the local, county, state, and federal level are, in many jurisdictions, trying to harshly restrict, and even ban in large part, the RKBA, and 15 years later the Court can't find the stones to enforce their own rulings that clearly show that these efforts by other branches of government are unconstitutional and a flagrant and egregious affront to Liberty.
How do we pass on this precious Liberty to future generations in these tyrannical states when we can't even buy ammo in this fucking state without a permission slip? How are our Liberty minded RKBA supporters supposed to carry on in the face of withering and detrimental laws that threaten us with arrest and long stretches of incarceration while state authorities curb stomp our RKBA into the gutter?
Like other elites, they expect us to hold our hands on our ass and suffer the consequences while they take their sweet ass time making up their fucking minds. They give themselves the latitude to deal with this tyranny when they feel like it, while the rest of us are supposed to suck it up and grin and bear it.
Its bad government all around, and it tells the up and coming generations that our system of government no longer works for the "average" citizen, showing that the only opinion that matters is that of the elite assholes who think they run everything.
Its shameful and an utter fucking disgrace!
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