The new Glock G44 announcement (merged thread)
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speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
A Carbine offering would be logical based on the popularity of the Ruger PC9. If a carbine was in the works they’d be smart to release it in 40 and 10mm as well. 10mm is something Ruger doesn’t offer.
Except for thr SR1911, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, and a GP100.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You heard it here first. It will be a red dot optic and or slides that have this red dot optic integrated into it.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Which one of those is a carbine?
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
That’s a damn good guess. Something to compete with Sig Romeo (not that would be hard)
Whoa I misread your post. Sorry.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I am not going to get into the specifics but I know what this is.
Something that goes bang.
I used to get excited about new products.
Now I only get excited when I find time to do the things I enjoy.
I would trade most of the stuff I have for more time for me.
Something that goes bang.
I used to get excited about new products.
Now I only get excited when I find time to do the things I enjoy.
I would trade most of the stuff I have for more time for me.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Butt plug?
Things I would like to see from a Glock carbine:
-Folding mechanism like the Sub 2000.
-A delayed or locked breach to reduce weight and recoil
-Magwell in the grip.
-10mm chambering.
-Last shot bolt hold open
-Folding mechanism like the Sub 2000.
-A delayed or locked breach to reduce weight and recoil
-Magwell in the grip.
-10mm chambering.
-Last shot bolt hold open
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I would love a 2A compliant NY for my Glock
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I see your line of thinking on the 365 sized gun but glock lovers seem to want all glocks and there seems to be no rhyme or reason to what people buy what glocks. I’ve heard people having 3-4 of the same glock??
I think the 365 and hellcat will be very popular guns and if glock didn’t move this direction it would surprise me. I think most makers will go this direction at some point.
my cousin just became a country sheriff and she told me a guy did their pistol course with the 365 and him and two others made it to 55 yards at the end to see who could get out the farthest. Other shooters were using the glock 22 standard department issue. That was impressive to me.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
That makes a lot of sense for glock going forward since they have so many pistols and calibers in their line up.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
From a business standpoint wouldnt that consolidate their product line up? Why buy a 17, 19, and 26 if you can buy a removable FCU and accomplish the same thing? Glock is not like Sig which has varying products, Glock does the same thing over and over but they do it well
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It's just easier to do this kind of stuff. P320 Carbine Chassis - EXO ONE From FireControlUnit -http://firecontrolunit.com/
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But it's not any easier, that's why the stupid roni exists.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
I doubt highly that Glock has engineered a removable FCU so that their customers can use it in an aftermarket chassis system. Why not just engineer the carbine we're all hoping for?
Lots of good thoughts here. I like the carbine or the red dot ideas best and see them as most likely. Glock gets the ability to grow their business in areas they currently don’t compete. The PCC craze isn’t going anywhere and Ruger getting it almost by default. Red dot let’s them sell a new product plus new optic ready slides to existing customers.
While the removable fcg is a great concept for Sig I think it could threaten Glock’s existing business model. They create variations of their existing successful models and people gobble them up at full price. While the initial purchase with removable fcg might be more profitable what is the margin on frames to swap into and will people stop buying the standard models?
While the removable fcg is a great concept for Sig I think it could threaten Glock’s existing business model. They create variations of their existing successful models and people gobble them up at full price. While the initial purchase with removable fcg might be more profitable what is the margin on frames to swap into and will people stop buying the standard models?
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
exactly what iv been saying
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Honestly, I think that the FCG is a gimmick. It may seem cool at first. Wow! I only have to buy one FCG and I can have 4 different guns!
Well, how long will that last before you buy 4 more FCG’s. Who here would want to constantly change it from a subcompact frame to a full sized frame every night when you get home from work to turn it into a nightstand gun? Who here is going to the range to want to turn their CCW subcompact to a carbine by having to take the whole gun apart to put it into the carbine and back again? Who here is going to do that in 3 gun?
It’s a gimmick! You’ll end up buying a FCG for every configuration to be useful.
Well, how long will that last before you buy 4 more FCG’s. Who here would want to constantly change it from a subcompact frame to a full sized frame every night when you get home from work to turn it into a nightstand gun? Who here is going to the range to want to turn their CCW subcompact to a carbine by having to take the whole gun apart to put it into the carbine and back again? Who here is going to do that in 3 gun?
It’s a gimmick! You’ll end up buying a FCG for every configuration to be useful.
I ran across a guy at the range with one of those. It was a jamomatic.
Ok let's see if I can make any sense and point out my line of thinking why it deff 100% won't be an optic of any type. Then address why it wont be a serialized FCG..
First the easier of the two.. the optic.. well glock isnt an electronic company, and they wont put that much capital into starting from scratch to get into an already overly saturated market that already has companies holding a gold standard... they are a handgun (firearms) company and it would be a complete failure and loss of money to try and make a red dot, because that red dot would either have to be super cheap and complete garbage (say like sig romeo one, which let's be honest Sig isnt even making these they are just rebranded chinese optics) or it would have to be extremely expensive and no track record so who's going to trust it.
Case in point, if I mention to you right now Weapons mounted ligths.. even those of you who dont have one or even like them have probably heard of the following companies..
Surefire, streamlight, Inforce, and yes even that crap O-light.. but I doubt anyone thinks Glock???
Well they made one (well 1 light only, and 2 different models with a laser)
Ok next the removable fire control group... it's a party trick at best.. guess what glock already has a removable fire control group, no it's not the serialized part, but to be completely honest in a free state that makes it even more of a party trick and usless..
But what about here in NY where some counties you have to be very very specific on what your permit amendment says? Oh you got the 9mm and that's what your permit says but you want to turn it into a sub compact .357sig? Well after buying the chassis (inexpensive) then spending almost the cost of a new gun on barrel and slide, then what?
Even if we take out the what a permit says part.. so you have a full size 9mm, but you also want a sub compact 9mm, hey cool I just need to buy everything but the FCG. And how much does that actually come to in the end? Like substantial saving? Or just a bit less than buying a new gun an actually having 2 usable guns vs 1 gun and a bunch of random parts..
I'm going back to the most likely option being a PCC that is taking glock mags (obviously)
With the date and time part all being 10's I would venture to say the first offering may just from left field be in 10mm instead of the more common offerings of 9mm..
Think about it, PCC market is hot right now, but it's also pretty crowded, most PCC are in 9mm, off the top of my head I can think of what maybe 2 or 3 that are offered in 10mm (hi-point being one of those)
10mm carbine would be a slam dunk. Would fill multiple roles, could be a good truck gun (and if they make a "pistol" version a backpack gun) would also be a good HD option, hell it could even be used for hunting all in the same package.. along with 10mm making its comeback and being more readily available and cost going down.
So my top pick is still PCC but my wild card guess is PCC in 10mm
First the easier of the two.. the optic.. well glock isnt an electronic company, and they wont put that much capital into starting from scratch to get into an already overly saturated market that already has companies holding a gold standard... they are a handgun (firearms) company and it would be a complete failure and loss of money to try and make a red dot, because that red dot would either have to be super cheap and complete garbage (say like sig romeo one, which let's be honest Sig isnt even making these they are just rebranded chinese optics) or it would have to be extremely expensive and no track record so who's going to trust it.
Case in point, if I mention to you right now Weapons mounted ligths.. even those of you who dont have one or even like them have probably heard of the following companies..
Surefire, streamlight, Inforce, and yes even that crap O-light.. but I doubt anyone thinks Glock???
Well they made one (well 1 light only, and 2 different models with a laser)
Ok next the removable fire control group... it's a party trick at best.. guess what glock already has a removable fire control group, no it's not the serialized part, but to be completely honest in a free state that makes it even more of a party trick and usless..
But what about here in NY where some counties you have to be very very specific on what your permit amendment says? Oh you got the 9mm and that's what your permit says but you want to turn it into a sub compact .357sig? Well after buying the chassis (inexpensive) then spending almost the cost of a new gun on barrel and slide, then what?
Even if we take out the what a permit says part.. so you have a full size 9mm, but you also want a sub compact 9mm, hey cool I just need to buy everything but the FCG. And how much does that actually come to in the end? Like substantial saving? Or just a bit less than buying a new gun an actually having 2 usable guns vs 1 gun and a bunch of random parts..
I'm going back to the most likely option being a PCC that is taking glock mags (obviously)
With the date and time part all being 10's I would venture to say the first offering may just from left field be in 10mm instead of the more common offerings of 9mm..
Think about it, PCC market is hot right now, but it's also pretty crowded, most PCC are in 9mm, off the top of my head I can think of what maybe 2 or 3 that are offered in 10mm (hi-point being one of those)
10mm carbine would be a slam dunk. Would fill multiple roles, could be a good truck gun (and if they make a "pistol" version a backpack gun) would also be a good HD option, hell it could even be used for hunting all in the same package.. along with 10mm making its comeback and being more readily available and cost going down.
So my top pick is still PCC but my wild card guess is PCC in 10mm
I think there is a good market for a basically Sub 2000 that doesn't suck.
Hell especially if that came in 10mm. And they got the recoil a little less shitty feeling (I had a sub2000 in .40 and it wasnt the most comfortable to shoot. But then again it was small and light and made by a toy company)
Downside pretty much any glock carbine to possibly come out will end up not being NY compliant.. unless they do pretty much a complete copy of the ruger which I dont see happening.. they will go with a more modern style thus not NY compliant
Ok not really on topic but I couldnt find the correct thread for this but I know this could be interesting for @Podmonkey and I've mentioned it in other places but 15 round magazines flush fit for glock 43x and 48 are getting closer to being released..
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Word on the street is that it’s just a single stack compact 10mm based on the guy in the picture being an outdoorsman and it being released at 10am on the 10th.
And see this is why I'm thinking 10mm PCC, especially something that breaks down into a backpack (similar to even an Ar platform)