Trump issues memo to ban bump stocks
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I am passed the point of caring about parties. I just want real and honest Americans. True to their core!
We are not eating it we are electing it! Step away from the sandwich!!
Pah! There is no such thing. Just a bunch of intellectual zombies shuffling around.
Jmac00
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GuyMontag
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Spoken like a child, but I did enjoy the "free will" non-sequitur.
Remind me again the last time you voted for a 3rd Party candidate who WON a national contest.
Thanks for playing.
Alright, you are hereby barred from the Cheese Sandwich rallies. You are a security risk......... Hey...hey!! Where are you going with that glass of milk?...... PUT THE NAPKIN DOWN!!!!!
Dr. Evil
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He certainly can confuse me sometimes. Like the DACA thing. A few weeks ago everyone was freaking out over his immigration talk. To tell you the truth, I don't even know what the hell happened to this. Haven't heard much lately other than the Dems didn't want it and nothing has moved forward. So, is this just a chess move where the Dems will balk and say he isn't doing enough? Is he calling their bluff in a sense? This is all really weird.
Motherfuc............. damnit! That was our VP candidate! GOPerfect you are completely derailing our vital campaign to reshape this country into a land secure in opportunites for all picnic fair nationwide!!
Phazer
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Ummm...drop in autosears (DIAS) are already highly regulated.
I cannot think of any other devices that "turn legal weapons into machine guns."
Bigfoot
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At this point and time I would still vote for Trump. Simply because he has done good for our country on many different fronts in a short amount of time. But I am highly, highly disappointed,,, Instead of anymore 2A restrictions I wish that he would have gone after the gun free zones like he said he was going to while he was campaigning.
Unless I missed it, Trump hasn't brought up the gun free zone issue since the school shooting but instead he brought up more 2A restrictions. I'm not sure what to think... Is he playing 4D chess again? --- Or is he going back on his word? --- IDK
The wife talked to me and calmed me down a little bit. But I have still lost my trust in Trump, I still am off the Trump train for now and will reaccess the situation as the next number of days go by and see what happens. The difference for me now is the fact that when I voted for Trump. I wasn't so much voting against Clinton like many were. I actually liked Trump's message and I voted for Trump because I believed in him... I would still vote for him at this point and time because other than this bad move... IMO he has done a good job against all odds, but this time I would be holding my nose because of this.
( like I have done so many times before with other politicians )
What really irks me about this is the fact that now, the left has traction. Now, the left is going to hammer and hammer at the media and at Congress and at Trump to push for more gun regulation. And they'll probably get it, because "Look what we did!" in the wake of a mass shooting. All the while, we as gun owners just compromise, compromise, compromise... If we keep it up, we soon will have nothing left to compromise.
This would be a spot for @Dr. Evil cake analogy.
Unless I missed it, Trump hasn't brought up the gun free zone issue since the school shooting but instead he brought up more 2A restrictions. I'm not sure what to think... Is he playing 4D chess again? --- Or is he going back on his word? --- IDK
The wife talked to me and calmed me down a little bit. But I have still lost my trust in Trump, I still am off the Trump train for now and will reaccess the situation as the next number of days go by and see what happens. The difference for me now is the fact that when I voted for Trump. I wasn't so much voting against Clinton like many were. I actually liked Trump's message and I voted for Trump because I believed in him... I would still vote for him at this point and time because other than this bad move... IMO he has done a good job against all odds, but this time I would be holding my nose because of this.
( like I have done so many times before with other politicians )
What really irks me about this is the fact that now, the left has traction. Now, the left is going to hammer and hammer at the media and at Congress and at Trump to push for more gun regulation. And they'll probably get it, because "Look what we did!" in the wake of a mass shooting. All the while, we as gun owners just compromise, compromise, compromise... If we keep it up, we soon will have nothing left to compromise.
This would be a spot for @Dr. Evil cake analogy.
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Bigfoot
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"Just a few minutes ago I signed a memo directing the attorney general to propose regulations that "ban" ALL devises that turn
legal weapons into machine guns"... His (Trumps) words.
Is that not compromising even more of our 2A rights with the gun grabbers?
Not being snarky... Just answering your question.
Bigfoot
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Yeah I know that, but is that not what he is referring to?
Amongst the other things that increase the rate of fire on a semi auto.
What am I getting wrong here?
Uzi
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If he wants to ban bumpstocks regardless of clever misdirection or context to what full auto is or isn't, any infringement to the second amendment is NOT good, is NOT okay, it's just another infringement to add to the book. It's an additional amount of freedom and liberty swiped right out of the Americans hands, literally. There was NEVER supposed to be compromise. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
You may not be missing anything. Hell, maybe I have blinders on and cannot see what others are seeing.
Before I get my panties into a bunch, I will wait to see if anything REAL comes from this memo.
As of now, nothing but a memo.
It doesn't matter if anything comes from this memo or not.
It shows Trump isn' and never was a supporter of the 2A.
Guess whats happening in a few months (9ish) election time, you better bet your ass that if the majority goes to Dems, Trump will sign almost anything anti gun that crosses his desk
I'm really not. I have said it in prior posts, I may be wrong, maybe this is his first step to show all that he is actually anti 2A. As of now, it is one memo
FIrst step?
Uhh, he was anti-2A before the election, and that was written off too, because I GUESS YOU WANT HILLARY IN RIGHT!?
Good night all...
Are you kidding
He has in writing in a book "he wrote" stating he supports assault weapons bans and longer waiting periods for gun purchases
Love when people hear actual failing of their lord Trump
And what do they do, oh I'm taking my ball and going home
And what do they do, oh I'm taking my ball and going home
Bigfoot
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For me personally the memo alone is enough to cause a distrust with Trump regarding our 2A rights.
He campaigned on not only protecting the 2A. But to make it stronger... This memo is not doing either one of those.
Maybe I am over reacting to an extent, my wife thinks so. And it seems that you think so also.
Maybe I am IDK we will see... But, from my perspective Trump buckled to the left on gun control by telling Sessions to
"propose regulations that "ban" ALL devises that turn legal weapons into machine guns"...
GOPerfect, you are a regular here so you probably have read my posts. If you have you know that I was a "huge" Trump supporter.
But the quickest way to lose my support is to compromise even more of my 2A rights away to the left.
My concern is, now that it appears that Trump has done it once, will he do it again? ...
What 2A rights that we have left will he compromise away next time a mass shooting happens.
And there will be a next time. There will be another mass shooting at some point during his term there is no doubt about that.
I am very disappointed with Trump... Just like a professional politician he went against his word.
It sucks but that is the reality of it IMHO.
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spat
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Except that all devices that turn regular weapons into machine guns are *already* banned.
See Drop In Auto Sear, or lightning link for examples.
Bump stocks specifically do not do that.
If he wants to pass a law banning the already banned devices to shut up the libs, I'm OK with that.