The fact that he said ban devices that turn regular guns into machine guns, right after he mentioned wanting to change the definition to include bump stocks.What did I read incorrectly?
The fact that he said ban devices that turn regular guns into machine guns, right after he mentioned wanting to change the definition to include bump stocks.What did I read incorrectly?
But they don't turn legal weapons into a machine gun.View attachment 25038
Sounds like a ban proposal to me.
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Sounds like a ban proposal to me.
They will define the meanings of the terms however they wish to suit there needs. As far as they are concerned machinegun may simply need to mean "shoot really fast".But they don't turn legal weapons into a machine gun.
Presidential Memorandum on the Application of the Definition of Machinegun to “Bump Fire” Stocks and Other Similar Devices
Issued on: February 20, 2018
After the deadly mass murder in Las Vegas, Nevada, on October 1, 2017, I asked my Administration to fully review how the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives regulates bump fire stocks and similar devices.
Although the Obama Administration repeatedly concluded that particular bump stock type devices were lawful to purchase and possess, I sought further clarification of the law restricting fully automatic machineguns.
Accordingly, following established legal protocols, the Department of Justice started the process of promulgating a Federal regulation interpreting the definition of “machinegun” under Federal law to clarify whether certain bump stock type devices should be illegal. The Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking was published in the Federal Register on December 26, 2017. Public comment concluded on January 25, 2018, with the Department of Justice receiving over 100,000 comments.
Today, I am directing the Department of Justice to dedicate all available resources to complete the review of the comments received, and, as expeditiously as possible, to propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.
Although I desire swift and decisive action, I remain committed to the rule of law and to the procedures the law prescribes. Doing this the right way will ensure that the resulting regulation is workable and effective and leaves no loopholes for criminals to exploit. I would ask that you keep me regularly apprised of your progress.
You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.
DONALD J. TRUMP
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As I read this, nowhere does he say he wants to ban them.
Did I read it wrong?
Well, somebody's gotta keep the faith I guess. I never had any to begin with. I gave credit where credit was due in relation to the economy, no more.Okay, I saw that...
But bump stocks do NOT, I repeat, do NOT turn semi's into Full Auto's.
I think he and his people know that as well. Unlike many here, I will wait to see the final outcome.
I need you to pat me on the head and tell me everything will be alright. And then give me a piece of candy. Can you do that for me?It looks like he's leaving the way open for the Justice Dept. to keep them, since they are not "devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns".
I need you to pat me on the head and tell me everything will be alright. And then give me a piece of candy. Can you do that for me?
Do you............. do you have any candy? I like Jolly Janchers. Or Laffy Taffy. Also Skittles.
This is exactly what I mean by towing the line btw.
Trump could have actually passed the law specifically banning bump stocks and STILL people would say "Uhh...I'm sure it was just a typo."
If this memo came from Obama,would you say "Well, I'm sure it's a ll just a big understanding, he's just going to look into it."I have never towed the line with any elected official. Not ever. I would have re-elected Bush if possible and I bad-mouthed him when needed.
As for Mr.Trump, I will bad-mouth him as well, if needed.
I have been a huge supporter from the start, all here know that, but again, If needed, I will tell it the way I see it.
Do you............. do you have any candy? I like Jolly Janchers. Or Laffy Taffy. Also Skittles.
Anything fruity really.
If this memo came from Obama,would you say "Well, I'm sure it's a ll just a big understanding, he's just going to look into it."
Be honest.
I have never towed the line with any elected official. Not ever. I would have re-elected Bush if possible and I bad-mouthed him when needed.
As for Mr.Trump, I will bad-mouth him as well, if needed.
I have been a huge supporter from the start, all here know that, but again, If needed, I will tell it the way I see it.
This a pointless argument. What matters is what comes of this directive. @GOPerfect says he wants to wait for all the facts, fine, I do too. Its not looking good however. Frankly its not the bumpfire stocks themselves getting banned but the fact such represents the slippery slope getting coated in ice.If this memo came from Obama,would you say "Well, I'm sure it's a ll just a big understanding, he's just going to look into it."
Be honest.
Thos a pointless argument. What matters is what comes of this directive.
Ack! Get away from me! Anything anice flavored I detest! Get me some Mike n' Ikes though and you're cookin' with gas!
I could swear I read this morning, on here, that the house has a version of the bump fire stock ban that has National reciprocity attached to it. But I could be wrong.
Personally I do not support anymore gun control laws including this bump fire stock ban. I personally have no use for it and would never buy one, but that doesn't mean I think we should give up anything else. However if something is going to give in the wake of this last mass shooting, I would be willing to accept a bump fire stock banned if it had National reciprocity attached to it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be calling any of our political leaders and promoting it because in my heart I don't support any infringement.
I do think this is very bad for Trump. Showing any weakness to the left is a bad move in my opinion. But then again, even the NRA caved on this one with support for the bump fire stock ban. As purists we are surely outnumbered in this world. And the globalist progressive agenda became so much stronger over the past 8 years of Obama.
Really? There are more than 2 parties you know... I have this thing called free will.Which is why when the time comes to vote for Kamala Harris or The Donald in 2020, NONE of this will matter.
Guys like Pink Panther are either venting or just talking smack, they'll vote for Trump a million times over versus ANY Dem.
I'll repeat it again since some have clearly not understood the lesson: Elections are binary choices, and always will be.
Really? There are more than 2 parties you know... I have this thing called free will.
Care to vote for "cheese sandwich" with me? I've done it a couple times. Other times I'd write Ron Paul in. Its a waste of time and the vote but thats the point.Really? There are more than 2 parties you know... I have this thing called free will.
The time is ripe if you ask me.Yeah, we have had so many third party Presidents.
Care to vote for "cheese sandwich" with me? I've done it a couple times. Other times I'd write Ron Paul in. Its a waste of time and the vote but thats the point.