Trump says he would sign NATIONAL RECIPROCITY if it reaches his desk

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fnfalguy said:
Yeah, I’m sure he would. Somehow he forgot to push the issue the last few years.

on a side note that I am sure some will hate, while selfishly I would lIke for it to occur, it goes against my feelings of States rights
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So you think your 1st Amendment right can be restricted, or even deprived, just because you crossed into another state? States rights, after all....
 
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No I don’t. However, as stated above, concealed carry hasn’t yet been determined to be under the purview of the 2A, whereas freedom of speech has sufficient precedence based on court cases.
 
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fnfalguy said:
No I don’t. However, as stated above, concealed carry hasn’t yet been determined to be under the purview of the 2A, whereas freedom of speech has sufficient precedence based on court cases.
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What about open carry then? States rights says you can't open carry in N.J. for instance? Is that the State's rights you are talking about, or is there some other aspect of the 2nd Amendment that you think states have the right to restrict?
 
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My beliefs or anyone else’s here don’t mean crap when it comes to the interpretation of what is covered under the 2A with regard to what has thus far been determined to be constitutional or unconstitutional. My personal belief that I should still be able to mail order a Tommy Gun doesn’t mean a thing. It’s based on the courts decisions and until a strong case of states over reach is heard by the Supreme Court, we are in this position.

my political views see this as a legislative over reach. I don’t care which side of the aisle over reaches, I despise it equally.

again my free opinion, which is worth about the cost of it.
 
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DrBleachCocktail said:
Don’t think it’ll pass because it would be too confusing to work with. If I from Texas who don’t have a permit go to NY with my G19 how would that work? Do I honor NY law and only bring 10 round mags or the constitution and bring my standard magazine? Would those with firearms have a handgun logo on their drivers license or state ID? What if I bring Hollow points to NJ as a New Yorker? It’s too confusing but could benefit 2A and let scotus rule that “everything that’s not a NFA is fair game” yeah...... won’t happen.
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I believe that's how it's written. CCW would apply across the states, but you would still have to follow state's law's. 10 round mags in NY, no hollow points in NJ, no carry in prohibited places in some states, etc.
 
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1075tech said:
I believe that's how it's written. CCW would apply across the states, but you would still have to follow state's law's. 10 round mags in NY, no hollow points in NJ, no carry in prohibited places in some states, etc.
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That's bullshit.

So you are driving cross country, and at potentially every state border, you have to change out what you are carrying? What do you do with the NOW illegal stuff? Put it in a lock box? You think N.J. or NYC wouldn't love to pull you over and search your vehicle anyway, and charge you for that illegal stuff in that lock box? They do it now!
 
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1075tech said:
I believe that's how it's written. CCW would apply across the states, but you would still have to follow state's law's. 10 round mags in NY, no hollow points in NJ, no carry in prohibited places in some states, etc.
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It would work like your drivers license.

Driving in Montana the speed limit is drastically different than NY. But your license works in both states.
 
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Pissed Off Patriot said:
That's bullshit.

So you are driving cross country, and at potentially every state border, you have to change out what you are carrying? What do you do with the NOW illegal stuff? Put it in a lock box? You think N.J. or NYC wouldn't love to pull you over and search your vehicle anyway, and charge you for that illegal stuff in that lock box? They do it now!
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That’s what I’m saying! More gun owners would get arrested because they think their gun is 50 state legal due to carrying a gun on his 50 state permit but gets arrested due to his G19 not being CA COMPLIANT or having a threaded barrel.
 
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DrBleachCocktail said:
That’s what I’m saying! More gun owners would get arrested because they think their gun is 50 state legal due to carrying a gun on his 50 state permit but gets arrested due to his G19 not being CA COMPLIANT or having a threaded barrel.
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Maybe you should have read the house bill that was proposed
 
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I'm not holding my breath even if the Republicans own the House, Senate, Presidency, and SCOTUS.

That said, yes, people would get caught up not following local laws. It would still be an improvement. You are always responsible for knowing the law. I would love to be able to carry into NJ or NYC and if that meant carrying semi-wadcutters or wadcutters instead of hollow-points, that can just be the next battle to win.
 
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Would need 60 votes in the Senate, which is acomplete impossibility. While I wouldn't consider him an enemy of the 2A like Biden, Newsome, FUAC, Harris... he's not a hard charging advocate for expanding it either. I don't necessarily blame him for not wasting his time trying to push for this. It is/was never gonna happen.
 
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