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That was Cloud’s first weapon mounted light. Another tough as shit light. I never bought one only because of the pressure pad being integrated with the light and the inability to push the light further forward. Though it’s very innovative and has lots of nice features.This looks real nice. Integrated sleek design.
Optimized Weapon Light - Cloud Defensive
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There’s a reason why it was the first one.
Didn’t even make the list. Probably didn’t what to blow up.
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No, for the pistol version.
The PL350 destroys the Inforce. The PL350 is technically a weapon mounted light body that accepts the PLHv2 or OKW head. So think of either 1350 lumens w/ 54,000 candela or 680 lumens w/ 69,000 candela on your pistol.
For pistol, I’m pretty sure I’d go PLHv2 offering. Still plenty of candela and more for pistol shooting ranges with a good amount of flood.
For tge record I hate the term "photonic barrier" I hate all pseudointellectual techobabble. It's rampant in the miltary and in "tactical" circles and it's all designed in an attempt to make dumb people sound intelligent. We are talking about light washout. Very simple. And talking about candela VS lumens is as dumb as Horsepower VS Torque. You need both figures to get tge whole performance pictures, one is not inherently superior to the other.
I would have to say that I’m pretty sure John Chapman who originated the term “Photonic Barriers” or Aaron Cowan are far from dumb people. Neither are the people at B.E. Meyers who also use the term who are industry leaders in lighting. Either way even if you want to call it light washout, it’s still exists. You’re also comparing apples to oranges with the two lights. The one has 2,800 lumens and only 10,000 candela. Of course the 2,800 lumen light is going to have much more flood since that’s what it’s designed to do. It also only stays at 2,800 lumens for 10 seconds before it needs to step down to 900 lumens (and who knows what candela rating) because of heat. The FW3a is also just a handheld light and has no viable option to be a pistol light which is what you’re looking for. You can find all kinds of lights with the kind of specs that the FW3a has in the flashlight community, but that doesn’t make it a good choice for a defensive light. I also disagree that the normal citizen doesn’t want the same light as LE, they can and do end up in the same situations that LE do and benefit from the same gear. Couldn’t the argument be made with that style of ideology that since you don’t see yourself being in the situation where the assailant is no more than spitting distance away from you than...why do you own rifles?
Modlite definitely makes great lights. It just sucks having to buy all the accessories for it since everything is separate. Especially if you try and bring it up to par with what Cloud Defensive offers with their entire kit.
Up to par? For me Modlight is superior.
You know you can get a REIN with no pressure switch and have zero wires as well right? When you say you don’t want wires all over the place, that sounds more like an issue with Modlite than Cloud itself because Cloud’s cable management is superior to Modlite 100% since Modlite doesn’t offer any. Just because you aren’t a operator, cop, or in the military doesn’t mean that you can’t benefit from having a more robust light. The one thing I’ll give you is the REIN is heavier than their Modlite counterparts but that’s only because the REIN’s are built stronger, for example the Modlite’s 6061 aluminum bezel to the REIN’s S7 tool steel bezel. The Modlite doesn’t way that much less than a REIN. An 18650 OKW (w/ battery) weighs 5.4oz, an 18650 REIN (w/battery) weighs 6.9oz.
I just run a tail switch, that's all I want. I want nothing to do with any cabling whatsoever. The Cloud Defensive stuff is a little too bulky for me.
Many if not most people run their weapon mounted lights with pressure switches because they want to maintain the ability to be ambidextrous. It’s really difficult to activate a rear tailcap on a weapon mounted light when you swap hands, if not practically impossible especially in a stressful situation. I’m not bashing Modlite, I like them...I have one. I eventually plan on putting my 18350 OKW on my 9” 300blk. I’m just pointing out the differences between the two and that there are definitely places where Cloud is superior. You can run your setup any which way you prefer my dude. You can also get a standard REIN for sub $300 (comes with the tailcap and charger), the standard Modlite’s are like $280 but don’t come with a tailcap or charger. You have to add those extra, now you’re looking at around $310ish I believe. But like I said I’m never gonna say Modlite is a bad light and whichever one you choose you’re not going to be wrong.
