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I can't speak to the differences in military and hunting applications for 6.5 vs .308, though I have seen articles and books which mention that the 6.5mm and 6mm cartridges do have limitations against larger game (Nathan Foster's "A Practical Guide to Long Range Hunting Cartridges" is the source...

Nothing has been studied as far as I can tell. Rather a few incidents made their rounds on the internet and everyone made judgments based on those incidents. The people in the military who actually get issued and carry pistols do train with them often enough. Trigger discipline is also...

Like I said - deployed and used in combat zones the world over. Most cops have minimal firearms training, as do most civilians...ranges and instructors have to cater to the lowest common denominator. I also don't see the ND really being much of an issue with the thigh rig...the waist variant...

Appendix carry is banned at many ranges...and yet many still profess to carry using that method. Train to use your system safely. The system you are referring to (Sherpa w/ index finger release) has been carried and used the world over by many different LE and military organizations. IMHO...

I've carried in that configuration quite a bit...I think it works quite well, but I was also carrying 50-60lbs of other gear. Subjective preference for sure, but I did prefer to keep the pistol off my belt and plate carrier...mostly because that real estate was needed for other equipment. Some...

HK416 is not the standard issue rifle for the USMC...rather, it's lightweight alternative to the M249 SAW carried by some or all of the squad's automatic gunners. As far as I know, no one has claimed that a 10.5" 5.56mm rifle is incapable of killing someone. It does, however, compromise on...

I just picked up a 92x Compact. Other than a feeding issue with one of the magazines, I've really enjoyed this pistol. It's hard to describe, but the recoil is noticeably different and linear compared to tilting barrel designs. You can add the g-modification with an OEM kit..costs about $50.

Like I said - no one in the military (referring to US DoD) uses the term "assault" with any weapon type. It's more descriptive of tactical task than anything else. The only possible exception I can think of would be the SMAW (which is a rocket-launcher). Of course you can find examples of OEM's...

The amount of butt hurt being demonstrated in that post isn't even funny. Ask anyone in the military (at last a combat arms unit, as I can't speak for the rear echelon types) to clean their "assault rifle" ....you'll only get confused looks. No one refers to a M4/M16, SAW, M240 or any other...

Where are you shooting long range in the Rochester area?

No, @SeaKayaker is correct: "Assault" weapon, or rifle, is not a term used in modern military parlance, at least not within the US military. We have full auto m4/m16's (and various derivatives), crew-served machineguns, semi-auto DMR's...none of them are referred to as "assault" anything. Back...

IMO, the shotgun is one of the most versatile and easy-to-use weapon options out there. At least with regards to a pump-action, the manual of arms is relatively simple, though not impervious to user error. It offers a wide range of ammo that can handle a variety of functions (00 Buck, 0 Buck or...

Chest holster is the way to go. I bought a Diamond D Leather holster for my S&W revolver....there are certainly less expensive options out there, but the quality is top notch and it can be adjusted to most body types. I picked mine up for tracking game through thick vegetation, but I could see...

That's it. Thanks for posting! I recall at one point the website listed long range shooting events as well...that's no longer the case?

I'm trying to recall the name for a website which consolidates a whole bunch of shooting competition events and categories (long range, pistol, ect.) into one massive calendar...gives you the ability to click on a particular event to sign up and find out about the location, event description...

Non G-model variant Berettas have seen nearly 2 decades of combat (between OIF, OEF and all the other military actions we've been involved in since 2001). There is nothing wrong with the frame-mounted safety...as long as you're trained up on how to use the Beretta platform. With that said, the...

Yeah...you really have to be a revolver-nut to be willing to pay that $ amount for a 6 shooter .44 magnum. I mean, that price point is higher than what many high-end semi-auto's and bolt-action rifles go for. Also, doesn't seem so practical for hunting: wood grips look cool, but you're going...

I assume that's what the language meant as well.

Thanks...exactly what I was looking for feedback on. I'm considering a Benelli M4 (5-shot with fixed stock). Once I get it, I'd like to ditch the factory 5-round tube for an aftermarket 7-rounder (likely Freedom Fighter Tactical) and an aftermarket stock with shorter LOP and cheek riser...

I'm not advocating flagrant disregard for federal law, but I am noting that there are millions of gun owners out there, many with foreign-produced firearms. Do you honestly think the the ATF is willing, or even capable of going out and checking to see if each and every one of those firearms is...

I'm not too worried about the 922R rules...I've literally never heard of someone being put in jail for putting a 7 round magazine tube on their benelli but then neglecting to replace 2 other parts with US-made components. I totally understand what you're describing, but I'm much more focused on...

Resurrecting old thread here, but can someone confirm the above? According to NY Safe Act: Semi-Auto shotgun is legal so long as it doesn't have one of the banned features (telescoping stock, thumbhole stock, 2nd hand grip for non-shooting hand, fixed magazine in excess of 7 rounds, detachable...

Still? I thought they lost one of their major AR (m4/m16) contracts with the US DoD? Quality Control doesn't seem to be as good as it used to be, and I think the US Govt has begun looking elsewhere for firearm manufacturing. ^This. I know there is a lot of nostalgia for the Python, but Colt...

Still can't get into the 1911/2011 hype myself...I've shot them, and know their trigger feel is second-to-none. But the SAO, carry locked-and-cocked manual of arms is just something I can't get used to. But, it does seem to be a good time to be building these pistol types...demand is strong.

Leupold is known for making some of the better high-end scopes out there, though Vortex has started to up its game as of late with its AMG offering. For the cheap price point you're considering (yes $200 is considered cheap for a scope), I'd go with a Vortex simply because I know they have very...

You're getting too wrapped around the axle on this one...but maybe that's exactly why you post on this forum. No one is saying the 1911 is better.... You also have absolutely no idea why the Marshals chose this weapon over that. Look, you can keep up with this armchair expert commentary, but...

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Most LE and Combatants don't use sidearms at all, but for those that do a somewhat fancier sidearm is not out of the norm. FBI HRT, various SOCOM units, Force Recon, ect. lots of examples out there of specialized units having somewhat unique and...

I agree that $4k is a lot to spend on sidearms, BUT.....a) do we know what the Marshals actually paid for these 1911's? and b) even if the purchase price was $4k, that's a figurative drop in the bucket compared to all the other forms of government misspending...seriously, if you want to complain...

You're the only one here who is trying to make a subjective assessment on which firearm is better. I've only said that each group/person has to undertake their own evaluations to determine what works best for their particular needs. This rant of yours is demonstrating butthurt to the nth...

The chamber pressures between 9mm and 9mm +P are different...SAAMI guidebook is your friend. A firearm is NOT rated for 9mm +P unless a manufacturer explicitly states so....that's how firearm cartridge ratings have worked pretty much since the invention of the modern centerfire rifle. Also...

I'm not saying anyone without a $4k 1911 is at a disadvantage. Rather I'm saying that each firearm design has its own set of pro's and con's. US Marshals likely weighed the pro's and con's when deciding on their SWAT's next pistol. There is no point turning this into a debate on the...

Last time we had this conversation, I provided an excerpt from Glock's website which stated very clearly that just because certain pistols are rated for 9mm DOESN'T mean they are necessarily rated for +P and +P+. The SAAMI standards for +P 9mm are different from those of 9mm. Unless a...

You're not SWAT, so stop arguing as if you have some dog in this fight. Tactical teams and certain military units have a higher likelihood of using their sidearms...that's why certain units place a heavier emphasis on pistol marksmanship over others. Stop being offended that some agency chose...

Here is a homework assignment for you: Go refer to the SAAMI booklet (which you actually referenced in our last back-and-forth) and tell me what the established max average pressure is for each cartridge (9mm and 9mm +P). A pistol that is rated for 9mm is rated for 9mm-like chamber pressures.

But a LE team is a lot more likely to employ a pistol compared to the general pool of pistol users. A pistol with better trigger pull and perhaps better accuracy certainly has its appeal and advantages for such a user.

1) Are we sure the Marshals even paid full price? Often companies will give discounts (especially on volume sales) to earn contracts and get their name and reputation out there. 2) Compared to the tactical guchi and gear most LEO SWAT teams are wearing (radios, helmets, NVG's, high-speed...

Really? So if .22lr can kill a bear, why not going out into the woods armed with that? Have you actually read the factory literature for "most" modern pistols? Because unless there is documentation which explicitly states a +P rating, the firearm is in fact NOT rated for that cartridge.

Lol...so it's a "cold hard fact" that 9mm can handle bears but that 22lr can't? I think you're doing a good job of further illustrating my point: a lot of pistol cartridges are capable of killing bear, only a few are optimal for such purposes. 9mm isn't one of them. There aren't as many...

9mm is a puny pea shooter, at least for the purposes of wilderness defense. It can and has worked in the past against certain predators, but then again so has .22lr. There is a huge difference between what is possible and what is optimal. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with...

If it's a full-sized duty/night-stand pistol you're looking for, get the 92. It's a solid design and it's a smooth shooter, both in terms of trigger pull and actual recoil impulse. The Walther-derived action (which is different from the browning-style actions used on most DA/SA pistols) is...

I'm not disputing that; I'm simply noting that its functional role sits somewhere between a DI M4/M16 (which is lighter) and a M249 SAW (which is a lot heavier).

Piston rifles are heavier in general compared to DI, but the HK 416 is especially heavy because it was designed to serve as a SAW 'lite' at the small unit level. It wasn't necessarily designed to replace the general issue M4/M16.

A lot of local FFL's don't like losing sales, as some here have already noted. Some have very reasonable FFL transfer fees, while others have progressively hiked their fees in an attempt to make online sales less attractive. I find the same trend with ammunition, though some online vendors are...

You're missing the point. Design parameters for the 9mm cartridge do not necessary equal the design parameters for +P 9mm. There are some +P 9mm loads with significantly higher muzzle velocities and chamber pressures as compared to the standard 9mm loading. That's why Luger 9mm +P is listed...

GLOCK Frequently Asked Questions That's Glock's official response...I'm sure with a little more digging, you could find official responses from some of the other OEM's.

Unless you see a OEM specifically state the +P rating in their manual, in their literature or on the firearm itself, there is absolutely no basis to what you're saying. Most 9mm pistols are not rated for +P...but shoot what you want...it's your call. Statistics do mean something....they just...

Bud, I'm not confusing anything. Pistols that are rated for 9mm ARE NOT necessarily rated for +P 9mm. Different chamber pressures and different design parameters. OEM's use SAAMI specs when rating their firearms for a certain cartridge. Only a few OEM's deliberately over-engineer their...

It worked 4 times...out of how many times total that pistols have been used in those types of scenarios? Those 4 instances could very well have been flukes, we simply don't have enough data to determine that one way or the other. Do you understand that +P loading is not SAAMI spec? When a...

One of those "studies" simply makes reference to the other...and that study really wasn't much of a study, but rather a bunch of news articles compiled by an online website. If we were to take the study's "statistical rates" at face value, then we should consider 9mm a more effective bear...

.45 is fat and slow so its penetration capabilities are definitely not the same as those for other cartridges. That said, neither cartridge (9mm nor .45 acp) is ideal for dealing with large/big game. They are far outlcassed by other cartridges in terms of penetration and wound channel aspects...