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Wishful thinking. Let's face it,there's not a lot of profit in the gun business to begin with. No big box stores are going to care, and small FFLs don't have the financial wherewithal to fight the powers that be. My county is pushing for a total lockdown. No hiking, no leaving the house, because...

Based on the updated guidance posted by the state this morning, the sole proprietor exemption language has been struck from the website. I think that your quest is dead in the water until this virus hysteria has ended

Tompkins makes you get the coupon before taking possession of the handgun. I email the paperwork to the customer to save them a trip. They get the coupon and come over for the transfer The clerk is closed until at least May 1 Given the recent thread here that said that Albany is going after...

I don't know why any FFL with multiple vendors can't restock since this panic started. Stuff isn't immediately showing in stock at wholesalers and there's a 14-ish day lead time before stuff ordered actually arrives, but it's possible. The gun availability issue is the sticking point. No new...

I hope that some of the bigger gun stores sue the state when this is all over. Especially when the feds have said that retail gun sales are essential businesses

Uh Interesting, because the original closure order language certainly seemed to exclude sole proprietor businesses. Wonder if the health department is fining other sole proprietor non gun selling places trying to stay afloat

Are these small sole proprietor places or brick and mortar stores

Look at what similar guns go for on GunBroker The reality is that Frankenstein guns don't command top dollar. The owner might want to think that they do,but something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, and to most people those parts add no value to the firearm

No. We lost that under Spitzer and I have no reason to believe that Cuomo will meet Federal requirements for your permit to ever act as an exemption for NICS. What amazed me for so long afterwards was how many counties were still handing out those now worthless five year certification forms...

That's easy. The 911 center dispatches the appropriate fire department for the location of the fire. Based on the type of fire the primary agency will request mutual aid to the scene as well as have neighboring agencies stand by their equipment to respond to additional fires that occur in the...

Has Cuomo tapped into the thousands of vents he had hidden in the NJ warehouse? If not, he needs to use those before he steals a single upstate ventilator.

" Do all" tools of any kind rarely do anything they're meant for very well. It's like trying to use Leatherman pliers instead of a real set of pliers. Good in a pinch but not as good as the real set. Same goes with guns.

Literally custom made to order ammo. But even the stock TSS stuff is pricey. I ordered in a few boxes for someone and ouch to the price tag

To the best of my knowledge NYS law doesn't even recognize the "other" category of firearms. Given the political climate of our state government its probably best to keep it that way

At least it sounds like they're still willing to do the paperwork, even if its not face to face. Tompkins is flat out just not doing anything related to pistol permits until at least May 1st

Didn't they say that landscaping was an essential service for some reason? Thought I saw a post about that a day or so back....

No courts are open in which to file their case

In the end, after a long battle, would the Governors be forced to concede? Sure. Up to that point, good luck for the brick and mortar stores in localities who will fight their being open tooth and nail. Look at how many places want to disregard Heller and MacDonald, and those are SCOTUS rulings...

Problem is that anti gun governors and local politicians will feel no need to follow that ruling. With the courts shut down, there is no venue open by which to challenge these politicians who refuse to allow firearms retail operations to continue

Last I knew, the commute train ends in Orange County, does it not? I was in Orange County in '03-04 when we were there under Noble Eagle. Orange County then was undergoing a metamorphosis because of people fleeing NYC after 9/11. It can't have gotten any better in the intervening nearly two...

If you can hop a train and go straight to NYC, you're within the environs and way of thinking of NYC. Which tends to skew far left and inflict itself on the rest of the state

The line has shifted north in my opinion. It now includes Orange county.

The virus might be an improvement for parts of Syracuse

Or part of the next generation of gun owners. The glass is half full, you know.....

The closure of seven wholesalers last year hurt a lot of FFLs. Places like Jerry's and Greene's were my old go-to options for ordering stuff. I currently rely on Zanders, Chattanooa, Grice, MGE, and nominally Orion, but Orions sales rep situation is so up in the air I'm not sure whats going on...

I don't have accounts with Davidsons or Lipsey's, as they flat-out don't consider me to be a "real" FFL worthy of doing business with them But I've had an account with Zanders for years and have placed multiple orders with them in the last two weeks. In fact, I got a call from my sales rep today...

Just out of curiosity, which vendors are you using? All of my suppliers are still shipping to me.

Which, to clarify, the shutdown doesn't impact tabletop or sole proprietor businesses, other than the fact that no transfer coupons can be issued. Long gun transfers are still possible. Handgun transfers to LEOs, who can buy the handgun on their badge, are still possible If the small sole...

Absent a state requirement to display a permit, such policies do nothing other than drive away customers.

Classic Firearms has the same notice up on their main page edit: Grabaguns main page now says to verify that your FFL is still in operation

Here, buyer takes bill of sale to the pistol permit office. Gun gets added to the permit and buyer is given a coupon to take back to the dealer, who keeps the coupon as part of the transfer paperwork.

One of my Schuyler customers tells me that that county somehow shifted purchase coupons to being an on-line thing that the buyer simply prints out. during the current crisis. if one county can do that, I don't see why others can't, if indeed the stumbling block for current transfers is the...

For some agencies handling permit applications, they have little to no full time staff assigned to the process. People who are on light duty/ office work get assigned the stack of backlogged applications and work their way through the pile. If no ones been on light duty recently, the regular...

Because too many people use WalMart as their source for ammunition, versus a local FFL? Now that WalMart is largely getting out of the gun business, people will need to find other sources for what they need.

I'm a sole proprietor FFL and this is what I am basing my continued operations on. Traditional brick and mortar gun stores may need to close, but I don't see how they can tell home based FFLs that they can't operate, based on the language quoted. I'm sure that Cuomo will correct that in his next...

Whats your plan for when the five second ride is over and the person you tasered is now really, really pissed off and you have no other force options readily available?

To be honest, even before this whole virus scare some FFLs didn't like doing private transfers, which leaves gun owners in a jam if there is a lack of FFL options. I've told my people to try and show up as early in the day as possible for their transfers. I don't care to experience the...

Until they specifically outlaw transfers and ammo sales, I'm still doing them. Why not. My regulars haven't magically stopped needing transfers and ammo or other supplies. The biggest issue is the inability to do handgun transfers due to no coupons being issued, and the slowed NICS background...

Tompkins County approved rifle hunting towards the end of 2019 and the measure went to DEC for approval. I expect that for the 2020 season rifles will be authorized....

Haven't run too many NICS checks since the whole virus thing kicked off. Last one I was on hold for an hour and a half, and that was a call made at 8 AM when I assumed that the NICS guys wouldn't be swamped by still-closed Western US dealers. According to forum posts on other boards, NICS checks...

Last time my family had an Empire Pass, it was during my deployment when the families of deployed personnel were authorized a free Empire Pass. Now if I want to enter one of the area state parks I park off site and walk in, with rare exceptions

I read the original article about the guy in Outside. Sad, in a way. But he lived his life as he wanted to

When a place like Buds or Grabagun are able to sell a gun for less than what I pay as a small FFL, you know that they're getting some steeply discounted prices based on volume. Same with the ammo

Then they'll go out of business and people will complain that they have no transfer options. Dealers aren't charities. They will pass along the costs of doing business plus a little profit for their time Guys need to stop hoping that the FFL genie is going to magically pop out low transfer...

From what I've heard over the years,places like Buds are happy making as little as $5 per gun and rely on volume of sales that are impossible for your typical local FFL to match. There's only so much room in the marketplace for a handful of places like grabagun or Bud's to exist

Of course, and transfer fees will go up because regulations have driven up the cost of doing business. The gun forums where guys in places like CA where they're charging $100 per transfer come to mind.