Hello! Videographer searching someone willing to be interviewed

[Dr. Evil]

On the other hand, can we say that guns are giving us that big amount of benefits compared to the times they are used in a bad way?

Um... yes. Fact Sheet: Guns Save Lives | Section 8: Arm Yourself With The Facts | Just For Skeptics

 

[Steal2B]

what I want to get from this project is just some visibility on my work, and maybe to learn about other's points of views. This is nothing really ambitious, it's more a short documentary / interview and I will probably publish it on youtube and vimeo.

I really question your sincerity but if you are in a progressive troll - trolling gun forums contest .... you win. You got eight pages of 211 posts from a relatively new but strong forum without being banned, rudely insulted, or outright ignored and there are well constructed and thoughtful responses to your prompts. Not a frequent troll or newbee accomplishment.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

how do you feel about giving out "approval of the edit?"
if the interviewed people feel like you misrepresent them they can not okay it and it will be redone?

Yes, I would agree to not publish anything if the interviewed person thinks that's not what he/she meant. I will never manipulate or twist the meanings or anything like that. I prefer making a pro-guns video but that is fair to the truth than a not honest but very convincing anti-guns piece. Above all, I want to show that you guys are humans too, and if it's possible to find some points in common because after all we all have families and want the same things.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

I really question your sincerity but if you are in a a progressive troll - trolling gun forums contest .... you win. You got eight pages of 211 posts from a relatively new but strong forum without being banned, rudely insulted, or outright ignored and there are well constructed and thoughtful responses to your prompts. Not a frequent troll or newbee accomplishment.

Thanks, I am a bit shocked too. I just posted that topic hoping to get "some" response and now I can't keep up with the messages. And believe me, I have other more interesting things to do than trolling people

 

[dsdmmat]

Steal2B, I think you are right, we must educate our children so they use the tools we all have around in a safe way. But the difference between a gun and a car, for example, is that a car is statistically mostly used to drive people around. I agree with you, it would be so stupid to forbid cars because sometimes there are accidents, or even because of the recent terrorist attacks. The benefits are clearly superior than the harms, so we better control the few people that are not using them in a proper way. On the other hand, can we say that guns are giving us that big amount of benefits compared to the times they are used in a bad way?

Could Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot done what they did to their population if their populations were armed? Could the 7th Calvery massacred the Indians at Wounded knee if they were equally armed? The entire point of having a well armed population is to keep the government from enslaving or massacring the population. Our population witnessed government abuses which resulted in the massacre of innocents 1992 and 1993 at Ruby Ridge ID and Waco TX. The reason the government did not repeat those atrocities in Jordan Montana in 1996 was several civilian militias showed up to monitor the government actions and take action if necessary. The FBI ended up negotiating every move with the Militia leadership who outnumbered them and also out gunned them. The Bundy Ranch situation in 2014 between the BLM and the Bundy Family did not escalate into a massacre because the intervention of well armed civilians who would have decimated the BLM thugs if shots were fired. We don't trust our government for good reason.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

Could Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot done what they did to their population if their populations were armed? Could the 7th Calvery massacred the Indians at Wounded knee if they were equally armed? The entire point of having an armed population is to keep the government from enslaving or massacring the population. Our population witnessed government abuses which resulted in the massacre of innocents 1992 and 1993 at Ruby Ridge ID and Waco TX. The reason the government did not repeat those atrocities in Jordan Montana in 1996 was several civilian militias showed up to monitor the government actions and take action if necessary. The FBI ended up negotiating every move with the Militia leadership who outnumbered them and also out gunned them. The Bundy Ranch situation in 2014 between the BLM and the Bundy Family did not escalate into a massacre because the intervention of well armed civilians who would have decimated the BLM thugs if shots were fired. We don't trust our government for good reason.

Thanks, that was useful.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

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Um... yes. Fact Sheet: Guns Save Lives | Section 8: Arm Yourself With The Facts | Just For Skeptics

Thanks for the link

 

[Dr. Evil]

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Thanks for the link

 

[Dr. Evil]

Could Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot done what they did to their population if their populations were armed? Could the 7th Calvery massacred the Indians at Wounded knee if they were equally armed? The entire point of having a well armed population is to keep the government from enslaving or massacring the population. Our population witnessed government abuses which resulted in the massacre of innocents 1992 and 1993 at Ruby Ridge ID and Waco TX. The reason the government did not repeat those atrocities in Jordan Montana in 1996 was several civilian militias showed up to monitor the government actions and take action if necessary. The FBI ended up negotiating every move with the Militia leadership who outnumbered them and also out gunned them. The Bundy Ranch situation in 2014 between the BLM and the Bundy Family did not escalate into a massacre because the intervention of well armed civilians who would have decimated the BLM thugs if shots were fired. We don't trust our government for good reason.

Nicely put.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

I choose to respond as if @Jordi Rubio were on the level, though I now belive its a big scam. Regardless, for posterity..........
Twice in my life I have used firearms to defend myself. In both cases the mere sight of the firearm halted my would be attacker and caused a hasty retreat. This type of successful use of arms is never reported because nothing really happened to begin with but it happens eveywhere and everyday. The decision to take up arms for defense is a serious one, one that should not be taken lightly. I see it as a grave responsibility and I accept that the mere ownership of firearms is just one small part of an overall plan of self defense. To that end I seek training with my arms, I spend large amounts of time and resources on the range and I constantly research and read up on the matter. There is however no denying the extreme effectiveness of a firearm for self defense. And chief among fireams is the semi automatic rifle/carbine. A law abiding citizen so armed is a force tok be reckoned with and nigh impossible to victimize. The culture of this Nation has long been founded on self sufficiency and rugged indvidualism, the bearing of arms has always been central to this. Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto once said(Though this admittedly controversial)
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."
Firearms are our heritage and culture, to include arms such as the AR15, the ownership of such is the ultimate expression of liberty. Without liberty life is without meaning.

I feel honored that you think I can be a "big" scam Thanks for sharing this, I can understand much better your position now. Is that range far from NYC? Do you think I could bring a camera there?

 

[dsdmmat]

I feel honored that you think I can be a "big" scam Thanks for sharing this, I can understand much better your position now. Is that range far from NYC? Do you think I could bring a camera there?

Plenty of ranges and very doubtful you would be allowed to bring a camera and conduct interviews. If you ever show up at my range you will be escorted off by the Sherrif.

 

[Phazer]

Check, please.

 

[Podmonkey]

I feel honored that you think I can be a "big" scam Thanks for sharing this, I can understand much better your position now. Is that range far from NYC? Do you think I could bring a camera there?

I live in Pennsylvania. The range I go to is around 280 miles from NYC. I am not comfortable with being photographed, recorded or filmed. Furthermore I don't expect to be at the range for another 4 weeks. I typically go monthly but this month I am visiting family in NYS. I get time off evey 21 days at a minimum.

 

[Doc8404]

I saw where this thread was going to go right off the bat, and it looks like I decided correctly to avoid.

Hell no. Take him to the mat.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

I live in Pennsylvania. The range I go to is around 280 miles from NYC. I am not comfortable with being photographed, recorded or filmed. Furthermore I don't expect to be at the range for another 4 weeks. I typically go monthly but this month I am visiting family in NYS. I get time off evey 21 days at a minimum.

Thanks, that complicate the things. I wouldn't want to make you feel uncomfortable, but thanks for considering it and for your messages.

 

[GOYABEAN]

They do exist

 

[dwa12479]

In that case, I would like to shoot the $h!t of that guy... but the thing is, how many chances do you have for that to happen? And for those remote chances, I have to have a gun home, knowing that some of my kids can grab it and kill himself or someone else? Doesn't that happen too?

Proper education for your children will take care of that problem. Mine are 13,12, and 9. Since the time they were old enough to walk and talk, they've known everything about all the firearms that I own. They've grown up knowing that anytime they want to see what's in the safe, all they have to do is ask. They know the 4 safety rules, and are made to recite them before we open up. They can handle anything they want, under my direct supervision, as long as they want until their curiosity is satisfied. I have no fear at all that they'll ever sneak in and have an accident. I could leave a loaded gun in their bedroom for however long, and I'm confident that they'll be fine.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

Thanks so much guys for your response and for the respect all of you showed to me. Both are things that I was not sure I would get, mostly because I'm not even an American and I dare to discuss the main topic of this forum. And I understand it's not any topic, I know this is something important for the members of this site.

I know I may sound like a troll or someone with some other hidden purpose, but the truth is much easier. I am who I said I was, and I know nothing about forums, that's why I'm not really good at answering all the messages.

If someone is interested, I'm still looking for someone willing to talk in front of my camera. I will respect their words, and I will mostly ask questions, because being honest, my spoken English is even worse than my written one lol

And I would like to visit some range or any other place that you guys think it's good for the better understanding of all this. It would be great if someone can show me around, but maybe I will go on my own otherwise.

I came here in a friendly way because I didn't want to fight or disrespect anyone, but also because this can be an important project for me.

Please, if some of you have some time and would like to talk to me a bit further, even if is not to finally do the interview, feel free to send me a message to hello@jordirubio.net

 

[Jordi Rubio]

Proper education for your children will take care of that problem. Mine are 13,12, and 9. Since the time they were old enough to walk and talk, they've known everything about all the firearms that I own. They've grown up knowing that anytime they want to see what's in the safe, all they have to do is ask. They know the 4 safety rules, and are made to recite them before we open up. They can handle anything they want, under my direct supervision, as long as they want until their curiosity is satisfied. I have no fear at all that they'll ever sneak in and have an accident. I could leave a loaded gun in their bedroom for however long, and I'm confident that they'll be fine.

Thanks for the message, you sound like a responsible dad.

If you allow me, I would take that as an example of the full situation. Let's imagine your kids are the US population. And let's say you are the government... after all, you set the rules lol
The thing is that even if you are sure nothing would happen if you leave a loaded gun in their room, you don't do it. I guess you will do it someday, but my point is, you do believe in having a strict control over your guns. And you have them in a safe because you want to be totally sure about your family's safety. I don't know, maybe it was not that good comparison, but it makes sense to me.

 

[Steal2B]

Thanks for the message, you sound like a responsible dad.

If you allow me, I would take that as an example of the full situation. Let's imagine your kids are the US population. And let's say you are the government... after all, you set the rules lol
The thing is that even if you are sure nothing would happen if you leave a loaded gun in their room, you don't do it. I guess you will do it someday, but my point is, you do believe in having a strict control over your guns. And you have them in a safe because you want to be totally sure about your family's safety. I don't know, maybe it was not that good comparison, but it makes sense to me.

OMG. Is this really Allen Funt pushing the envelope of sanity?

OrmaybeanNYFfrathouseprank? (putthatinyourgoogleinterpreter)

 

[dwa12479]

Thanks for the message, you sound like a responsible dad.

If you allow me, I would take that as an example of the full situation. Let's imagine your kids are the US population. And let's say you are the government... after all, you set the rules lol
The thing is that even if you are sure nothing would happen if you leave a loaded gun in their room, you don't do it. I guess you will do it someday, but my point is, you do believe in having a strict control over your guns. And you have them in a safe because you want to be totally sure about your family's safety. I don't know, maybe it was not that good comparison, but it makes sense to me.

Well for one, comparing me to the US government doesn't work well. My home is not a democracy. It's a dictatorship. And my kids know that. Haha.

And you're right, I don't leave loaded guns in their rooms. But it's not because I think that they'd intentionally do harm to themselves or others. It's that accidents happen, and right now they're not quite proficient enough to handle them on their own. They know full well not to handle anything by themselves, but to come get me or the wife. My guns are not locked up for my family's safety. They're locked up in the unlikely event of a break in that we're not home and they're stolen, but MAINLY they're in a safe to protect against fire. I also have other fireproof lock boxes with important documents and irreplaceable items as well.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

Well for one, comparing me to the US government doesn't work well. My home is not a democracy. It's a dictatorship.

Okay, definitely not a good comparison!!

 

[Steal2B]

 

[spat]

Sorry

@GOPerfect I like to think I'm a pacifist. It's not that I don't support the US Constitution, I just say that guns should be strongly regulated to avoid them to end up in the wrong hands... I know this may not be the best place to say that though

So, strong regulation, like drugs ? Because that has been proven to work so well at keeping things out of the wrong hands, right ?

 

[spat]

But the difference between a gun and a car, for example, is that a car is statistically mostly used to drive people around.

Guns are also stastically used for legal purposes far more often than the contrary. Tens of billions of rounds are fired every year in the US, how many of those are used in a crime ?

Even the US government statistics show that guns are used far more often to stop crime than to commit it.

 

[Defilade]

Speaking of cars, watch this video, He explains it well. Banning the gun or a certain type will not solve the problem. What the Deep state is attempting to do is use a horrific crisis like this to disarm the populace. They are preying on people's emotions to advance their agenda.

 

[Twogunwilly]

I've had a change of heart and set up a conference call. Feel free to call anytime 605-475-6972

This is for everybody, don't wait, call ASAP, please use your speaker phone with the volume way up.

 

[FrankenCub]

Sorry

@GOPerfect I like to think I'm a pacifist. It's not that I don't support the US Constitution, I just say that guns should be strongly regulated to avoid them to end up in the wrong hands... I know this may not be the best place to say that though

You do realize that Mahatma Gandhi, the most renown pacifist, said if there is a choice between cowardice and violence, always choose violence? Even he realized a gun in the hands of good men is the only way to stop evil.

I have been repeating over and over again that he who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by nonviolently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully.
Mahatma Gandhi

 

[Dr. Evil]

I've had a change of heart and set up a conference call. Feel free to call anytime 605-475-6972

This is for everybody, don't wait, call ASAP, please use your speaker phone with the volume way up.

I'm curious... but not that curious.

 

[Steal2B]

I'm curious... but not that curious.

You know that number is a sex addiction joke hotline, right? I figured many of us here already had it on speed dial.