Not to be a douche but that is the same premise for “traditional” sights. If you can’t keep the front post sight in view, you have to still bring it back. Only difference is you don’t have to line up front and rear sights for follow ups, unlike a dot.
Lets talk Red Dots on handguns
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The difference is you can see the front sight in your peripheral vision as you bring the gun up. That allows you to make corrections as you are aiming. With the dot you don't get the visual feedback. As said above technique is key. Specifically your grip and index.
I process it differently. I think about it as target focused, not sight focused. As soon a the dot is on or close, pull it.
I do too with the red dot. Again it's all about proper technique. Look at where you want the bullet to go and if your presentation is right the dot will be there when you bring the gun up.
Does anyone know of a good shoulder rig that works with red dots?
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
Tell me more about that add-on muzzle brake.
Its legal in 50 states. Not a threaded barrel. A reported 44% reduction in muzzle blastiness (technical term).
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Seems they only make it for Glocks though? They get great reviews.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
Ouch, #notcheap!
Yes. Only for Glocks at this point.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I would buy one for my 365 but I won’t buy a Glock.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It’s a barrel and compensator so I don’t think it’s terrible. I’d buy one for my 365 if they were made for one. I’ve always wanted to try something like this to see the difference. Probably a great addition to a pistol with an optic.
This is DOPE. Would love one for my Glock. What makes you say it's legal in all 50? Doesn't the safe act say something like all compensators and muzzle devices on semi auto guns are illegal? (hard to tell tonality via internet but genuinely curious not trying to be argumentative)
Why what about Glock prevents you from buying or liking them?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I don’t like the trigger on them and at this point I’m fairly heavily invested in the 365 platform. My son wants a 365xl and I’ll probably buy him that in a few months incase NYS does something stupider. Also many of my friends and the guys on my church security team carry the 365 so we can swap mags and share them, same with my kid. I like your look and feel of the 365 as well.
So, how compatible would that be with standard P320s?
Not as of yet. They will be making plates I'm sure.
No one likes the trigger on them. No one likes the stock sights either.
Thats why most people change both immediately to a much better after market.
I thought the 365s had a version of Sig's X-Ray sights? The X-Rays are as good as 3 dots get IMO. Though I like 2 dot sights better.
Is the biggest difference in the holosun 407 vs 507 series the extra reticle option?
Just trying to decide if the extra reticle alone is enough to justify spending the extra money.
Just trying to decide if the extra reticle alone is enough to justify spending the extra money.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I have never used the circle-dot reticle with any of my 507k sights on pistols. I only use the dot so that I can "Aim small and miss small."
I have used the circle-dot reticle on a shotgun. But, I think I prefer just the dot on that platform, too.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I think he was referring to the question on why I don’t like Glocks.
The nice thing with ported options are that they usually don’t interfere with holsters as much as comps do. Sometimes comps can get funky when doing one handed manipulation drills. For example if the slide locks back on empty on a comp’d setup and you go to put it into the holster so you’re one good usable hand can now insert a fresh mag, sometimes comps can get hung up on the inside of holsters. With ported setups the outer dimensions don’t really change so it doesn’t affect it.
Any thoughts on green vs red for reticle color?
Pros or cons? Is one better or worse for someone with astigmatism?
Pros or cons? Is one better or worse for someone with astigmatism?
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
IMO there isn't much difference besides the color. I think the whole better for astigmatism thing is a placebo. It's been repeated so much that I think many shooters convince themselves that it's doing something. Is a red traffic light at night much different than green besides color? IDK. Light is light. They also say the green dot batteries last longer. Again IDK. I would imagine that red would be better over a green background in the woods as red doesn't occur in nature as much as green. Blue being the least occuring. One thing is for sure. Green is always a bit more expensive.
ETA there are a ton of videos comparing the 2. No one ever gives a solid answer.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
This is my assessment as well and I went red for the same reason. I shoot in the country so the red will stand out better.
As for the batteries lasting longer I’ve never heard this but I can’t see it being true. I have a pretty bad astigmatism and the red dot I just bought is not bad for me. I have trouble shooting rifle red dots that aren’t prism so this is good coming from me. The rifle red dots I’ve tried obviously have larger dots. I do have to say the circle and the circle with the dot inside show almost no distortion to me. The dot as it gets more intense does distort more for me and that makes sense as well. When distorted it looks like a lopsided star to me. My right eye is worse than my left.
There actually is some science to it. As I’m sure we all know the eyes have rods and cones. The cones are what’s used to see color. We have three cones for the three primary colors of light…Red, Green, Blue. The wavelength spectrum that the red cones operate on don’t actually peak their sensitivity (strength to see that specific color) near the actual color red , instead it’s closer to yellow. Red is one of if not the hardest color for humans to perceive. The Green cones’ sensitive actually peak extremely close to the wavelength of true green, and the same follows with the blue bones and the true color of blue.