This should have been expected....
Here's where SCOTUS really stands on the 2nd Amendment.
First, you have an "individual" right to keep and bear arms.
Secondly, it's being left up to the States what they will allow you to own, under what circumstances you can own it, and where/how you can...
Again....I wouldn't want to put my defense in the hands of jury nullification. Risk I wouldn't want to take and the odds are long that I'd be successful.
As far as gun owners on a jury is concerned, better wrap your mind around the fact that we are a statistical minority in a REALLY blue State...
No we shouldn't but how often will we get the opportunity and remember, it takes more than one not guilty vote coming from a brainwashed populace.
Unfortunately this is our only option at this point.
Odds I wouldn't want to take.
You need to take a course on reading comprehension.
At no point did I state his insulting others, posting photos that make no sense, or trolling efforts were supported by me. Neither are the efforts of others to "square the account" with insults of their own. In the end run, you're all adults...
I'm not in the habit of sticking my neck out for strangers but I've re-read every thread in this post and one thing comes to light immediately.
SteyrAug is speaking what clear minded people are thinking. The ratio of people who say they'll openly and transparently violate Unsafe are so...
Stop "schooling" people here on what is being said, it's intended meaning, and to whom it was addressed to. We're having a conversation remember....
No one made you the Chairman of the Oversight committee.
Holdover....it's tough, really tough to ignore your approach.
I put the challenge out there for ANYONE to provide me with ONE example of a Court in NYS or on the Federal level striking down a single enacted anti-gun law based on constitutional grounds that was enacted in NYS. If anyone can...
I'm talking about NYS...not "some other States."
With regards to resisting, that's a personal decision. Me...prison isn't somewhere I'm itching to go over a standard capacity magazine. Unless and until we have actual armed resistance, we'll never know if chest thumpers will walk the walk. Until...
No kidding....
...and have since day one.
Now that we've agreed on that, give me an example where the Constitution was successfully applied In NYS to render a gun control law null and void.
Go ahead....I'll wait.
I do see it...clear as day. Where you and I differ is you have faith that eventually good will win out wherein I have 30 plus years of experience that tells me at no point in this States history, regardless of party in power or who controls the Courts we've NEVER reversed a gun control...
You DO have a legitimate bitch. Problem is no one who can ACTUALLY change the outcome is listening or honestly gives a rats ass.
We are nothing but pawns in their game. Only way to survive is NOT to play.
Argument is a non-starter.
If someone holds a gun to your head and wants your wallet. Give it up. Premise being you have some chance at "living to fight another day."
If you think you'll be shot anyway...fight. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
Go looking for trouble because...
Excellent question.
Truth is there are fundraising opportunities for the NRA, SCOPE, NYSRPA, and others as long as there are laws on the books that rile up a segment of the "membership dues paying" citizenry.
Ask yourself this....when was the last time you saw a photograph of Tom King holding...
Chris Collins is taking TREMENDOUS heat over his support of Ryancare, especially after admitting on national TV that he voted for the bill w/o actually reading the thing.
Now he's coming to draw "support water from the well" with his wishy washy pro-gun stance.
Don't buy the hype. The bill is...
In theory...
That line of thinking doesn't fly in NYS, MA, CA, and NJ.
These 4 States alone run a "cottage industry" in constitutional rights violation and guess what....they still enjoy widespread success.
The left wipe their asses with the Constitution, and RINO's provide them with ample...
I love people who quote case law chapter and verse and expect it to actually mean something in the Peoples Republic.
All those glorious words you offered as proof that the citizenry isn't bound by unconstitutional laws and that the Courts are not bound to enforce those laws aren't worth the...
Why do we defend the actions of morons ?
While I have ZERO problem with so and so exercising their Constitutional rights by LEGALLY carrying a firearm from State to State for personal protection (screw the "only can transport for sporting or hunting purpose" limitations), this "genius" lost...
You're taking liberty here with 2 important matters...
One, NYSP never "blessed" anything officially. Everyone knows that. Their "tacit" approval with epoxied bullet buttons, DD Ranch type devices, and the Thordsen stock speaks volumes in regards to what they are CURRENTLY willing to accept. To...
Just some info I paid an Attorney to advise me on way back in the day....
1. Permanent is NOT used in the Safe Act pertaining to ANYTHING but magazine capacity restrictions (modifying a mag to hold only 10 rounds of ammo).
2. The BB and the MR2 device are not legal work around because the...
They still received 4m of the taxpayers dollars so I wouldn't say their efforts were a total loss.
Outhouse to Penthouse via Civil Term. Wealth created the American way.
Hiding things in the gun safe or closet and never taking them out and enjoying them isn't the answer.
Shooting the cops who come to confiscate them isn't the answer either.
I honestly don't have a clue as to what the answer is.
All I'm certain of is that everything we've tried before, every...
Like I said numerous times...people don't care to go to jail. I know I'm not going. Deep down inside you won't go either. They want someone else to.go in their place. Meanwhile the Tom Kings of the world will hunt deer, shoot sporting clays, and sip good scotch safe in the knowledge that those...
I agree. I asked the question in an effort to.solicit the exact response you gave.
As a side note...we as firearms owners as a whole used to count on the 2nd Amendment being around forever. Now I honestly believe we are 2-3 decades away from half the country bring completely disarmed.
It's...
That's the problem. They are NOT failing, they are succeeding and their successes are based upon the false premise that there are "acceptable" gun owners and "undesirable" gun owners.
Pump shotgun owning FUDD = acceptable
Pistol grip stock on your 1100 Remington = undesirable.
We as a...
This post is more of a rant than it is "politics or law" but with that said, here it is.
I'm 51 years old. I got my NYS Pistol Permit at age 17, it was amended to concealed carry at age 21.
I began competing in practical pistol competition in 1982. I hung up my holster in 2015. 33 years of...
My guess is he's at a top level secret squirrel meeting with ALL the power brokers in NY Pro-Gun politics... Bombardo (aka "Shooter"), Tresmond, Tom King, Representatives from SCOPE, Wayne LaPierre, NYS Senator Pat "Thief" Gallivan and the ghost of Bill Nojay putting the finishing touches on...
I hope it passes. In fact I hope they stop fucking around and pass a ban on all firearms.
Pistols, revolvers, rifles, shotguns....everything.
Especially hunting rifles and shotguns. Let FUDDS like Tom King and his ilk feel the pain the rest of the firearms community in NY feel because we want...
He is powerless in the Assembly. Must be tough going to work everyday knowing you can't get anything done. At least as County Exec he can accomplish things.
Smart political.move.
Simply can't get past the fact the guy runs off at the keyboard as if he has all the answers , calls everyone who doesn't agree with him "lemmings" then when called out slinks off into the sunset.
Reminds me of Tresmond, Shooter, and the NRA. All gum flapping, no results.
If someone takes a...
.0000001 %
Within the margin of error.
I'll believe otherwise IF and WHEN I begin to read, hear, or view on the local news about this "demographic" of the gun owning populace being arrested and having their handguns confiscated.
Recert isn't like AW registration. NYSP know what you own...
FUDDS love him though, he lets them hunt deer, hunt waterfowl and shoot clay pigeon sports on the weekends.
Women love him because he provides "reproductive rights" a.k.a. abortions on demand.
Illegals love him because he gives them sanctuary along with public assistance, drivers licenses, and...
98% will recertify before 12/1/2017....
2% will claim they didn't know they had to (honesty be damned) and will have to hire an Attorney to get their guns back.
There's a less than .1% chance recertification will be shitcanned. Wishful thinking, just like ACTUAL tax cuts and repairing roads...
More John Stark blah blah blah...
All talk...no action. That is unless you take into consideration the actions he wants others to take on his behalf.
Hundreds of his type in Albany. I think he missed his true calling.
It's ok for YOU to go to jail but HE'S far too important to go...
No...my plan is for people like yourself who possess a PhD in Self Importance to stop talking big and start ACTING big. ALL of your references to "NY lemmings" in this post (and others) is nothing more than a diversionary tactic for your own shortcomings.
No one asked you for a grandstanding...