Modean
.223 Rem
You get that downstate totally outnumbers us and will give our electors to Biden, no matter how you, I, or everyone else in this forum votes, right?
Trump says he would sign NATIONAL RECIPROCITY if it reaches his desk
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nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
With 49 of 50 states issuing CCW's ( Constitutional Carry States still issue CCW's ) how do you think the SCOTUS would rule if they were challenged?
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Was the Bill of Rights Meant to Apply to the States?
Was the Bill of Rights Meant to Apply to the States? | Tenth Amendment Center
Most people have never read the preamble to the Bill of Rights. In fact, a lot of people don’t even know it includes one.
tenthamendmentcenter.com
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The SCOTUS opinion was not delivered until 2010.
That opinion is that the 2A has applied to the states since at least 1868.
A law that is ruled unconstitutional doesn’t become unconstitutional when the ruling is handed down. It was *always* unconstitutional.
Someone solely convicted of a law that was later overturned on constitutional grounds can have their conviction vacated, even decades later.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Was the Bill of Rights Meant to Apply to the States?
Was the Bill of Rights Meant to Apply to the States? | Tenth Amendment Center
Most people have never read the preamble to the Bill of Rights. In fact, a lot of people don’t even know it includes one.
The argument can be made that it wasn't intended to apply to the states before the 14th was ratified. After? Not possible.
The 14th makes no provisions and grants no authority for future courts to selectively incorporate anything in the BOR to the states.
It and of itself was the sole means of applying the BOR to the states - That's why it was ratified.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
True!
But that still needs to go though the Courts! Just as all these gun laws need to go though the Courts and be ruled unconstitutional.
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I believe he would sign it if it ends up on his desk, but honestly I don't expect him to push Congress for it. That still doesn't change how I will vote because of all the other great aspects of what he is doing.
fnfalguy
.308 Win
this is absolutely the position we are in NY and many other similar states. No matter how 90% (just throwing arbitrary number out there) of the counties vote, it is nullified by a handful of metro areas. The reality is that the majority of voters in these metro areas will vote for the Biden/Harris ticket even if they were on every social media feed nightly with Harris holding down a juvenile, handicapable, disadvantaged, gay, ethnic minority while Biden skull fucked them while alternating reading passages from Mein Kampf and Chairman Mao’s Little Red Book.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Your confusing acceptance of current reality with what should be. The founding documents and the supporting arguments are pretty clear
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Lets see some of the supporting argument then..
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Your kidding right? Basic US history 101 at least it used to be.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
No way the hole in that mask is for popcorn. There has to be more to that gif.
Have to subscribe to my fansonly to find out
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Is it free?
Instead of bemoaning the inevitable I choose to take the opportunity to fantasize of gun shopping.
10 round restrictions being what they are I wonder........ P365 or Glock 48?
10 round restrictions being what they are I wonder........ P365 or Glock 48?
As hard as it is for me to say this.. p365
@thewheels
.308 Win
New edc?
For a max rounds, 50 state legal edc.
Id suggest trying and shooting both
(Example Walther PPQ vs G19) but if the p365 can shoot well for you then I'd say that over the 48.
But thats if deep concealment is your thing.
Otherwise G48 would be just like carrying your g19 just slightly different (and actually you could stock up on Shield Arms 15rounders..... now you have a 50 state capacity legal gun but can run 10 or 15+ rounders)
So now my vote is to the g48 to stay with the same manual of arms as your current gun and same grip
I keep seeing people talk about a case making it up to and succeeding with the SCOTUS.
Until a good case is brought to them, they will never rule in favor. Lately, a bunch of very weak cases have made it to Washington.
If a case is to be a success, it must be a good case and loaded with facts, backed by good court cases. So far, very lacking.
Until a good case is brought to them, they will never rule in favor. Lately, a bunch of very weak cases have made it to Washington.
If a case is to be a success, it must be a good case and loaded with facts, backed by good court cases. So far, very lacking.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Thats a small hole, just saying.
One more Conservative Judge after ACB, and changes will be made.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Well.....until the court gets packed by the Dems.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If I'm fantasizing, my EDC is going to be a G18.
Of course I understand that.
I also understand the Left is constantly touting the Popular Vote.
So don't enable them.
Maximize the Popular Vote for Trump.
It makes a difference.