Also is that test only in gel and denim? How would those barrel lengths do if you add something as simple as a car windshield, or any of the other barriers for the fbi testing?
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They tested 117 carry loads and this is among the very best. To imply someone is going to buy every ammo themselves and do extensive scientific testing on such is quite silly and not a serious argument.
It really isn't moot. You listed one test on denim and gel... guess what, there is more to the world than just heavy clothing.. so how is my point moot?
Still waiting for you to take your own stupid ass advice and take your sights off your carry gun
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I didn't ask how many loads they tested but nice try bringing up useless info to make it look like you know something
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No he's right, my point is mute because he will refused to acknowledge it because lucky gunner tested 117 different loads so
You are trying to distance yourself from your "I need longer sight radius for my fighting gun" argument, that doesn't really hold water at the distances of defensive shooting.
I said sight radius? When did I say that here?
The study is here, for those who dont already know everything like @Edwardteach72 does.
I'm sure he's done more testing than all others in the world, combined. He is the all-knowing internet warrior.
Handgun Self-Defense Ammunition - Ballistic Testing Data
Lucky Gunner tests more than 110 different 9mm, 45 ACP, 40 S&W and 380 ACP handgun self-defense ammunition loads in ballistic gel with analysis and video.
www.luckygunner.com
I'm sure he's done more testing than all others in the world, combined. He is the all-knowing internet warrior.
And you are the one saying no one uses sights in a defensive situation yet you won't take your sights off your gun... sounds like all talk... shit I will even offer to pay for your admission to an onsight class, go shoot that with no sights
The study is here, for those who dont already know everything like @Edwardteach72 does.
Handgun Self-Defense Ammunition - Ballistic Testing Data
Lucky Gunner tests more than 110 different 9mm, 45 ACP, 40 S&W and 380 ACP handgun self-defense ammunition loads in ballistic gel with analysis and video.www.luckygunner.com
I'm sure he's done more testing than all others in the world, combined. He is the all-knowing internet warrior.
Hey look still side stepping everything..
All I said was lucky gunner only tested to one part of the fbi standards
The study is here, for those who dont already know everything like @Edwardteach72 does.
Handgun Self-Defense Ammunition - Ballistic Testing Data
Lucky Gunner tests more than 110 different 9mm, 45 ACP, 40 S&W and 380 ACP handgun self-defense ammunition loads in ballistic gel with analysis and video.www.luckygunner.com
I'm sure he's done more testing than all others in the world, combined. He is the all-knowing internet warrior.
Oh wow lucky gunner does more testing than the FBI? Damn dude thats fucking impressive.
Can you link your source?
Post 102 was endorsed by you. Sight radius.
Waiting for you to provide your own data to discredit the previously posted data. Also HST is used by an awful lot of LE.
I'll be waiting for your report to review the data.
I was referring to you.
So I can't thumbs up something? Where did I say that hst didn't perfom for lucky gunner?
Show me how a glock 43x has a longer sight radius than a glock 17
what are you talking about? Never said it did. A ~1" sight radius will make no difference in a shooting at 3 feet, as the data says is almost every case of defensive shooting.
If you want to carry around a huge gun that can only be half loaded, go for it. Just dont be pounding your chest about a "fighting gun". It's a bit silly. This isn't a movie. You aren't going to be running and diving and doing back flips while taking head shots at someone on the other side of the mall.
So all self defense shootings take place at 3 feet?
NOpe. that was my original point.
Almost all, yes. 3 shots in 3 feet.
What to deflect? Still haven't told me why you wont take your sights off your gun, remember you don't aim, defensive shootings only happen at 3 feet.
And still won't go back to the ballistics testing. Deflecting on that as well i take it
Really? So take your sights off you don't need them
You argued "fighting gun". Sights are much more likely to be used on the range.
3 shots in 3 yards is the data.
The Rule Of Threes
Three yards, three rounds, three seconds. According to my friend, mentor, and master defensive firearms instructor Tom Givens, most gunfights involving civilians and felons takes place at a distance of approximately three to five yards, approximately three and one-half rounds are fired, and no
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You argued "fighting gun". Sights are much more likely to be used on the range.
3 shots in 3 yards is the data.
The Rule Of Threes
Three yards, three rounds, three seconds. According to my friend, mentor, and master defensive firearms instructor Tom Givens, most gunfights involving civilians and felons takes place at a distance of approximately three to five yards, approximately three and one-half rounds are fired, and no
So I can't pull up the ASP youtube channel and see plenty of shots being taken over 3 feet?
Why do you have sights on your gun?
You are trying to dance away from "fighting gun". Sights are used on the range and not usually in real life up close shooting. You will draw and fire. Point shooting. You won't have time to line sights up.
and still ignoring that you said lucky gunner test more ammo than anyone else combined?
Not at all, ill take a fighting gun over some pocket gun any day of the week